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Topic: We Need Better Movies!
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Tom Ferreira
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 203
From: Conway, NH, USA
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 07-01-2000 06:30 AM
I've been wondering for a while why studios seem to make these 'vanity projects' instead of films that people want to see. I had to laugh when I read about the making of Titan A.E. They were attempting to make an animated film that woud appeal to 12 and 13 year old boys. Yeah, right, like any self respecting 12 or 13 year old boy would want to see a cartoon. It was too dark for the little ones, also. I had that film pegged as a bomb long before it came out. I wouldn't have booked it. Same with I Dreamed Of Africa. Who could possibly have wanted to see this film? Unfortunately in this day and age, the films that do business are not necessarily the quality films. I don't think The Patriot is going to do nowhere near as much money as The Perfect Storm, a far inferior film. I still maintain that most people aren't looking for a history lesson this time of year. If Paramount had held off MI2 until this weekend, it probably would have set records. Part of the problem with the box office being down so much this year has to do with Disney. If they had held true to form, Dinosaur would be in it's second week right now playing to sold out crowds, instead of finishing up it's run. Luckily, Dreamworks filled the void with Chicken Run, but not to the extent that Tarzan did last year. People want comedies, sci-fi event films, and family movies during the summer, which is why I think X-Men and Nutty Professor will pump up the lackluster box office. Quality films? The term has for the most part become an oxymoron. So many studio heads are sadly out of touch with the pulse of the movie going public. As long as films like Road Trip continue to make money, I'm afraid the dumbing down will continue.
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Jason Burroughs
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From: Allen, TX
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 07-03-2000 03:43 PM
I can see Joe's point exactly, however the trend of purely crappy movies is, for the most part, the fault of the public. They reward the sudios for releasing pure crap, and they both the public and the studios turn their backs on well made, high quality, low budget or indie films. You often see complaints that theatres don't show enough of these pictues, but when they DO no one shows up. Instead the public would rather go see the latest adreneline pic Speed 3 ARGH! And of course the studios only go where the money is, and as for it hurting the theatres, when the boxoffice makes money, the studio makes money, they release crappy movies because the public wants it, not just to shoot themselves in the foot.
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Kenn Fong
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From: Oakland, CA 94610 USA
Registered: Aug 1999
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posted 07-05-2000 12:14 AM
The problem is there is too much product out there. Note I said "product" not movies. They call it "show business" not "show art" or "show edification."The studios pump out so many titles because it doesn't make sense for them to keep a few titles in circulation for long. I hesitate to correct an earlier post, but the studios take 90% of the first (or best) week's gross, with that cut declining by 10% a week until it stabilizes at an even split. (For more on this, read, "We don't make 'em, Lady, We only show 'em" on my website.) That's why they carpet-bomb the countryside with prints. They take as much as they can the first two or three weeks and then throw up something new. They don't give a rat's ass about the exhibitors, and the exhibitors know it. kenn ------------------ Kenn Fong qwertyuiop.net The Screenwriters Home Page
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Andrew D'Vrey
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From: St. Paul, MN USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 07-05-2000 11:38 PM
I agree with most said above. For years now I've thought the video industry is what's really hurting theaters. Primarily the fact that movies are coming to video earlier and earlier all the time.I remember one of my favorite movies, Spaceballs, when Mel Brooks was making fun of this very fact by haveing the Space Balls movie released before the movie was finished. Unless it's something you want really really want to see, it's often worth waiting for it to come to video 2-6 months later. There are still tons of people who don't care about "The big screen digital experience." and just want to see the movie. For them, waiting is fine. That and video stores have a selection no movie theater can top. So there's plenty else to watch while you're waiting for it to be released. Now added to that group are the audio/video enthusiasts who play DVD movies at home in better quality than quite a few theaters I'm aware of. Plus, as one of my a/v enthusiast friends said to me recently about my theater's offerings: "you don't get the cool DVD extras at the theater." In which I responded: "Uh...well, we have uh...big standees with Squirrels and stuff on them." He promptly pointed to his Darth Vader cardboard cutout. It used to be you went to a theater to get something you couldn't get at home. Now home viewers seem to get more than the theaters do. ------------------ "And the monkey flips the switch." - Major Don West, "Lost In Space" Andrew D'Vrey IATSE Local 219
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Dave Williams
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 07-09-2000 06:06 AM
Forget better movies, they will never get better. We need better trailers! Remember the trailers for Alien, Independance Day, Terminator 1 and 2? They showed you just enough to make you drool. That made the movie fun because you really didn't know what to expect.The trailers now are 2 and a half minutes long and give you the plot, characters, story outline, all the best lines and action, and sometimes even the ending. You see the movie before you see the movie. Then it isnt even fun! Trailers like MI2, Gone in 60 nanoseconds (like my attention span), star trek 217 (the search for anyone who gives a damn anymore). Dave ------------------ "If it's not worth doing, I have allready been there and done it"
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