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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1714
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 07-07-2000 02:55 PM
Ok, let’s get into stadium seating.The first stadium seating theatre I saw was IMAX in DC in 1976 and I said to myself, “Self, all theatres should be like this.” So I had the idea first and I should be rich. For the record, my business partner, Ky doesn’t like stadium seating at all. I kind of like it. One theatre by me is a Pacific 16 that was put into an old Costco store. As a result they had to make a few compromises in the design. The ceilings were not high enough so the dug pits for the screens to sit in. as a result the entrances and emergency exits and the handicapped seating are all on one plane. This plane ends up as the first quarter of the auditorium. This works really well. I like to sit there so if I were handicapped I wouldn’t mind being there. The stadium angle is also rather shallow; there is only one step between seat rows. I like this. The steps are very even. There is 8’ from the projection port to the back row. Looking at the picture, my head seems to be square on my shoulders. This theatre uses 7-inch risers. The new 14-plex that was built in this town has really steep stadium seating. There are two steps between rows. The steps aren’t evenly spaced. The back row is right under the projection port. As I entered the second to last row while the trailers were playing, my head got into the picture. At the end to the film, I crossed each row on the way out and my head entered the picture down to five rows from the back. I am 6’4” tall but still this seems to be too much. The handicapped seating is in the front row. The entry and exits are on the bottom of the rake. I feel as though I am always looking down on the image on the screen. This theatre uses 14-inch risers. Since the projection booths are usually on the same level regardless of how big the auditorium, I have noticed an alarming trend. As the houses get smaller the stadium risers get taller. In one theatre in Denver, I get vertigo in the smallest houses and don’t in the larger houses. UA Colorado 9 where the largest houses have 4” risers and the smallest houses has 9” risers. I like Continental seating. This is where there is no center isle and there are only side isles. Stadium seating usually takes this approach. I was thinking of a hybrid design where the front two thirds of the auditorium is a traditional slope and the back third is a shallow stadium. We all know that stadium seating is harder to clean. So perhaps this would help. Stadium seating costs 50% more to build and perhaps a hybrid design would save some money. Anyway this hybrid design is as far as my business partner will go. p.s. My two favorite houses in Denver had very shallow stadium seating. The Continental has 2” risers and the, dearly departed, Cooper had 4” risers. These two houses were built in the 1960s. What do you think?
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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 07-07-2000 09:26 PM
I don't particularly like the Landmark "steep-slope" concept, myself. They have this in their Boston location (the Kendall Square Cinema, which is actually in Cambridge) and I find it very uncomfortable. The problem with this is the same as the problem with most of the stadium arrangements that I have encountered--they mount the screen way too high on the wall, which makes it very difficult for those of us who like to sit fairly close to the screen to find a decent seat which is both close enough to the screen for our tastes yet is not so close as to cause neck pain during the course of a two-hour film. In many such theatres, this seating location does not exist.
I'm really not a fan of the Landmark Kendall Square house at all. In fairness, the decor is tasteful and they can properly show all formats (including flat/Academy and Europen widescreen 1.66:1, as well as 16mm), but the seating is uncomfortable and most of the screens suffer from "red exit-sign glare" syndrome.
As for generic "stadium seating," I'm mostly familiar with the AMC new-construction concept and the Regal retrofit concept. Both of these have the same problems listed above--screen too hign on the front wall--and both (AMC in particular) suffer from a steep projection angle and very short throw, which causes annoying distortion on screen. Apparently GCC is adopting the AMC concept for some of its houses...many of the auditoria in the Framingham theatre have been (badly) retrofitted to stadium configurations. The new #1 house is just awful; it was originally a Showscan (70mm/60fps) venue and is now a regular 35mm theatre, featuring a giant-size screen (which can't be properly lit, even with a 5kw lamp) and a really short throw, which makes the image nearly impossible to focus. Grr. I won't even mention the effect that stadium seating (and all the additional surfaces) tends to have on sound quality (or lack thereof).
Having said all of this, I'm not opposed to the _concept_ of stadium seating (which, BTW, dates back to the silent era!), but I haven't yet seen an implementation that I have liked.
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Russ Kress
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 202
From: Charleston, WV, USA
Registered: May 2000
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posted 07-22-2000 10:59 PM
I disagree with the insurance issue. The Park Place retro-fit brought additional aisle illumination (Perm-Light) as well as handrails into the picture (insurance types just luvs them handrails!) The floor is completely visible even when the house lights are out.The stadium configuration is also obviously impressive to patrons as they enter the auditoriums. When coupled with SRD and lots of QSC poweramps, these auditoriums quickly remind the patron that they are in the presense of something that they cannot get at home (unless they are related to Bill Gates *grin*). I really don't think it's a fad either. It places allot of people in front of a screen without making them feel as if we crammed them in there. Russ
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