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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1714
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 10-23-2000 12:13 AM
We have had the oppertunity to play a film late this week. We have a 10:00 PM show. In this town the sidewalks seem to roll up about 8:30 PM. Tonight we had 4 people for our late show and they came in on passes from a competing theatre and didn't buy popcorn and soda.As a percentage the 10:00 PM show represents 3% or our business. I don't think we will be running it next week. Every now and them someone approaches us about doing a Midnight film at our theatre. I don't think it would do very well with our past experience with a 10:00 PM time. How many of you do well with late films? How many of you do well with early shows?
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Dave Cutler
Master Film Handler
Posts: 277
From: Centennial, CO
Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 10-23-2000 01:50 PM
I have worked at several theatres in four states (Colorado, Michigan, Missouri and Kansas) and have seen a variety of scheduling technics.However the only place I saw a regular midnight round do well was the theatre I worked at up in Michigan. It was in a town that had FIVE colleges in the immediate area. Now that's a lot of college students, and since we (college students) don't sleep it was the best time to go see movies. We only ran the midnight on Friday and Saturday, but they did very well. The rest of the week our last show typically started by 10:30. Frequently our late shows did better than prime, I found that the college students would wait till later to avoid younger kids and adults. It was also a good study break. If you have mostly highschool kids around I would think that anything starting after about 9:00 (maybe 10:00) would be about as late as you would want to go. If you are in a area that has mostly adults or older folks, I would think that you could start the last show by 8:00 and be just fine. Every area is unique. (which is why micro-management doesn't work ) IMO
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Steve Scott
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1300
From: Minneapolis, MN
Registered: Sep 2000
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posted 10-24-2000 03:03 PM
It's a tough call to make during the school year, but we usually schedule 10:00 PM shows, and discontinue shows before 12:00 PM. This week, we've got Coyote Ugly and Lost Souls at 10 PM. We usually have to run Lost Souls every time, but Coyote Ugly usually only gets started on Teusday (its matinee night then). We'd lose more money running the early morning shows. And... don't ask me why we still have coyote ugly. I have no clue!! ------------------ "Trying is the first step towards failure!" -Homer Simpson
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Scott D. Neff
Theatre Dork
Posts: 919
From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 10-24-2000 06:50 PM
Ian -The Raven in Healdburg used to run midnight shows on the weekends, starting in the summer and continuing into the fall and winter. They were minimaly advertised cult flicks. If you guys ended up doing a cult series - all you'd really have to do is make flyers and paper the Junior College and Sonoma State University... they'd show up. About 6 years ago my old boss did Monty Python's The Meaning of Life -- and it did REALLY well. Now Blazing Saddles on the other hand... didn't do so well... NOT the kind of movie college students will jump up to see. Anyway... there's my 25 cents. -Scott
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 10-24-2000 07:21 PM
Midnight shows, like everything else in this business, really depends on your area. I've seen them work and have seen them fail, miserably.The midnight crowd is definately not the same crowd as the earlier shows. Having colleges or a young (but past driving age) population seems to be a necessity. Also what Hollywood offers can affect the midnight business too...many films don't play well to the midnight crowd while others, cult films and the like, can do really well. Another thing I have noticed is that sometimes a midnight schedule has to be cultivated....the kids need to know that it is a regular thing and not here and gone. I remember opening a theatre and shortly after starting midnight shows...nothing...six months later they were doing rather well in a 5-plex. In short, it isn't a sure bet either way. Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1714
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 10-24-2000 09:34 PM
Midnight Shows,Hell! I was talking about 10:00 PM shows! I'm never going to do a midnight show.
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 10-26-2000 11:58 PM
Ian,I have never seen 10:00 shows do well, as a rule. It isn't a midnight show, so you won't get that crowd and it is too late for an evening show so you miss that crowd too. I would avoid scheduling any evening show past 9:45 in most areas. One thing I have noticed around here is that the value of the second evening shows (the "9s") has gone way down in value but the "twilight" shows have gone up. I'm seeing more and more theatres going with a 4-5:00 first show and an 7-8:00 second show and calling it a night (weekday schedule, not Friday or weekends). Steve ------------------ "Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"
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