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Jason Black
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 - posted 12-13-2000 09:23 PM      Profile for Jason Black   Author's Homepage   Email Jason Black   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How many of you indies out there (or chains for that fact) are open for Christmas? If you are open, do you run a full schedule or a shortened schedule? How do you manage to get employees to actually *show* up for work? Do you pay holiday pay or overtime?
Some states do not require o/t pay, nor holiday pay for the record, and I work for a chain who will not pay ANYTHING extra to the hourlies for working holidays, which I think it total shiite, but I'm only a lowly inept manager (for 12 years mind you) who has no voice nor ablility to make any changes...

What about the rest of you? And the real wonderful thing.. we just rec'd a memo from the home office reminding us that we do NOT shorten schedules and that we ARE open 365 days a year, but that wanted "our employees to enjoy the holidays" and that proper schdeuling NOW would insure that. Yeah, whatever! any of you managers out there know you can't force a 16/18 year old to come to work on a normal day, much less a holiday, ESPECIALLY when they have no real incintive (yeah, that minimum wage thing isn't a real boost for them) to show up....

IMO, Holidays are more a headache to me, personally, than anything. But I still stay in the business... imagine that...

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Rachel Carter
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We are open for Christmas with a shortened schedule...we open at 3:00PM. This is my first Christmas at this particular theater and I am not sure about holiday pay.

At my old theater they only showed the night movies and employees got paid time and a half. We never had a problem with employees showing up. It was a small theater with only one employee and the manager working together.

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Paul G. Thompson
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Normally, the small theater chain I worked for closed for Christmas Eve. We only ran the 1:00 and 4:00 set.


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Mike Spaeth
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Per company policy - we drop the 9/10 round on Christmas Eve, and drop the first round on Christmas day. What this means is that we're open from 11am-8pm on Christmas Eve and from approx. 2pm-10:30pm on Christmas Day. Employees get 1.5 time for all hours worked after 4:30pm on Christmas Eve, and ALL DAY Christmas Day

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Paul Cunningham
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As far as I know it is ILLEGAL to open at all on Christmas day here in Melbourne. Staff get paid double time on Boxing Day and New Years Day. Good Friday we are open but need to receive special written permission from some high up person in the government (maybe the governor general I think).

Would anyone even show up on Christmas Day? Everything around here is shut including McDonalds, shops and restaurants.

Paul

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Jerry Chase
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Paul, Christmas day can pack-em in. Some families can only take so much of the relatives that come a-visiting, and have to get out of the house. Folks that don't celebrate the holiday want something to do as well. Christmas eve usually sucks attendence-wise.

Until I moved into a DM slot, I worked every Christmas. Even though one of the companies I worked for wouldn't pay time and a half for employees, while I was managing the workers always managed to find they had magically done an hour or two of extra unscheduled work that week.

If you get any celebrations out of the way in the morning, Christmas can actually be an OK day to work, rather than overstuffing yourself and bemoaning the fate of your stomach. You just have to get out of the herd instinct that because everyone else is doing an all day Christmas, you have to as well. Then you have to convince your girlfriend or wife,... which is a_teeny_ bit more difficult. (Hint - hide the cast iron frying pan and put cotton in your ears before breaking the news.)


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Mike Blakesley
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We're always closed Christmas Eve, and always open Christmas Day with evening shows only. If we have a great kids-type show booked over Christmas, then we run a matinee on the 24th. (Last year it was Toy Story 2, which was packed!) This year we have 102 Dalmatians booked, but are going to run a Saturday matinee instead of Sunday.

Sometimes it's great to be a small indie!

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Steve Scott
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We're open every single day of the year, but on christmas eve, we're only open during the day. This lets the employees go home to their families. This year, we made it manditory for everybody to work on the 23rd and the 25th (unless they wrote an excuse to our scheduling manager: out of town, family objection, etc.). On christmas eve, we usually just get people buying gift certificates for last minute presents anyway.
And, everybody gets time & a half on the 24th & 25th.

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Ian Price
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Looks like we are going to drop the last rack on Christmas Eve and be open a full schedule on Christmas Day. I want to be closed for the evening shows on Christmas Ever but none of the other theatres will be closed so that screws us.

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Sean McKinnon
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Hey Rachel,
You work for Patriot Cinemas do you think they would pay time and a half ever This is the theatre that didnt pay me for months of thursday night work...

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William Hooper
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quote:
How many of you indies out there (or chains for that fact) are open for Christmas?

Theaters open for Christmas go ALL the way back. Although generally, more businesses in the US were open for Christmas for instance in the 1920's. I don't know any other way to describe this, but the Christmas season over the years in the US has undergone a sort of Mardi Gras -ization.

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we just rec'd a memo from the home office reminding us that we do NOT shorten schedules and that we ARE open 365 days a year, but that wanted "our employees to enjoy the holidays" and that proper schdeuling NOW would insure that

If they say "enjoy the holidays, you get no holiday", they know that they're being jerks, & they're being jerks because they enjoy it.

You probably knew that already though...



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Paul G. Thompson
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Jerry - maybe I should have added we ran full bore on Christmas day - for the reasons you cited.

OOPS! Hey Jerry .- I just discovered you were talking to another Paul. Sorry


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John Wilson
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Ours wants to open Christmas day and are offering 'at least double time and a half' to work it. They've put a note behind the concession stand asking those interested should put down their names.

So far, there are no projectionist's names but about ten floor/management staff on the list.

That should be interesting...

I absolutely refuse to work either the night of Christmas Eve (so I can do the Daddy thing which I love) nor on Christmas Day because...well...it's Christmas. Surely cinemas can go dark one day a year and not go broke.

Life's for living, isn't it?

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Paul Konen
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Cinemark

24th - drop last round
25th - drop first round

25 is paid 1.5x

Paul.

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Jason Black
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William,

You must know corporate mindset pretty well. I take it as adding injury to insult each time they send out a memo saying "we want our employee to enjoy the holidays with their families, yada yada..."

If they truly menat it, they would pay them for it. I could care less about getting any more money for the day, but the hourlies should make 1.5 AT LEAST.

Oh well, we can all wish..

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