Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE: Survival Of The Fittest

my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home

»	Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE » Operations » Ground Level » Survival Of The Fittest (Page 1)

This topic comprises 2 pages: 1 2

Author

Topic: Survival Of The Fittest

Ethan Harper
E-dawggg!!!

Posts: 325
From: Plano, TX, USA
Registered: May 2000

posted 06-09-2001 12:14 PM

Every major Cinemark chain around here is not playing Evolution. Is it true that there are no Cinemarks playing Evolution? I have also just heard a rumor that the son of the CEO/Founder of Cinemark got into a dispute with somebody at Dreamworks. Does anybody know if there is any truth behind this or possibly shed some light on this?

------------------
--"That's my story and i'm sticking to it!"--

| IP: Logged

Jim Ziegler
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 753
From: West Hollywood, CA
Registered: Jul 99

posted 06-10-2001 07:26 AM

The Cinemarks in Kansas City are not playing it. I don't know about the others..

| IP: Logged

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 06-10-2001 11:37 AM

I heard it was someone at Cinemark taking a stand against increasing film rental terms. If that's what is going on, ya gotta admire them being a major theater circuit turning down a major release to prove a point.

| IP: Logged

Darryl Spicer
Film God

Posts: 3250
From: Lexington, KY, USA
Registered: Dec 2000

posted 06-10-2001 11:44 AM

Only thing I have heard is that we refused to play it in any theater do to the rental terms. Same problem almost happened with Shrek. Since I work for the company I do not speak for the company in reguards to factual statements. As far as I am concerned this is hearsay. I have heard that Regal had the same problem with Galaxy Quest a couple of years ago. They refused to play it in there theaters but not sure if it was all of them or not.

| IP: Logged

Mark Huff
Film Handler

Posts: 69
From: Springfield, IL, USA
Registered: May 2000

posted 06-10-2001 02:26 PM

I was unaware that Lee Roy Mitchell had any children.

| IP: Logged

Darryl Spicer
Film God

Posts: 3250
From: Lexington, KY, USA
Registered: Dec 2000

posted 06-10-2001 03:53 PM

Yes he does I believe from a previous marrage. His name is Mr. Kevin Mitchel. He is a booker in the film department. He's actually a nice guy if you have to talk to him on the phone.

| IP: Logged

Christopher Duvall
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 500
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Dec 1999

posted 06-10-2001 08:36 PM

Funny you mention that about Evolution...
When Galaxy Quest came out, not one Regal got it. Pretty much the same thing, from what I have heard in the rumor mill, we (Regal) did not want to pay the higher film costs. It was rumored to be at around 95% of the box office. Of course this is all rumor and speculation, but heard from pretty solid sources.

------------------
Chris Duvall
General Manager
Regal Cinemas Colonnade14
Las Vegas, NV

| IP: Logged

Mark Lensenmayer
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1605
From: Upper Arlington, OH
Registered: Sep 1999

posted 06-11-2001 10:32 AM

I can't find any CINEMARK theatres playing EVOLUTION. Also, on he CINEMARK web page, there is a list of movie companies. DREAMWORKS is not listed.

Mark Lensenmayer

------------------
"As a moral to young men who come down to the city, don't go round breaking people's tambourines."

| IP: Logged

Manuel Francisco Valencia
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 151
From: Oklahoma City, OK, USA
Registered: Dec 2000

posted 06-11-2001 04:05 PM

We do not have a print of Evolution as well which is kind of stupid seeing as how we had a sneak preview of it two days before release. As to my understanding there is a dispute with Dreamworks and Cinemark will not play anymore Dreamworks until the dispute is resolved.

| IP: Logged

William T. Parr
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 823
From: Cedar Park, TX
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 06-11-2001 04:19 PM

This reminds me of the Love Spat that United Artist had with Disney back in the late 80's which lead to Disney not allowing UA any product for close to 6 months or so and also lead to Mann Theatres Reopening a location in Corpus Christi, Tx they had closed 4 years earlier. As for Cinemark this is not the first time they have had a Disagreement with Film companies. Back in 1989 when most of the Cinemark chian where Dollar Theatres, Paramount pictures tried to force them to charge a higher price for product and had incited other film distributors to do the same. Cinemarks answer atthe time was to gat ever patron to sign a petition on Cinemarks behalf to go back to the film companies with stating they would not pay a higher price and would go back a first run theatre if prices were increased or rent it on video.

| IP: Logged

Charles Everett
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1470
From: New Jersey
Registered: May 2001

posted 06-11-2001 04:53 PM

Not the first instance and probably not the last.

Loews doesn't play 20th Century Fox product in Manhattan (NYC) -- a dispute over terms that runs well before Star Wars Episode 1.

Regal never played Ghost Dog and The Ninth Gate (both Artisan) -- something to do with terms?

National Amusements (at least its NY metro theaters) doesn't play certain 20th Century Fox product -- something to do with terms? (Usually it's the lesser titles.)

General Cinema in New Jersey didn't show Saving Private Ryan on its original summer '98 release. May have had something to do with terms. GC did get the movie for the "Oscar bait" re-release in winter '99.

| IP: Logged

Scott Madsen
Film Handler

Posts: 58

Registered: Oct 1999

posted 06-11-2001 08:41 PM

UA may be having a issue with Dreamworks also, at least in some markets. At least here in Minneapolis, no UA's are playing
Evolution.
It seems to be a non-factor on this picture. It opened to decent but not great enough business that not playing it will make a huge difference. I guess we'll have to see how the future Dreamworks product does.

| IP: Logged

Charles Everett
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1470
From: New Jersey
Registered: May 2001

posted 05-10-2002 05:42 PM

Cinemark must have kissed and made up with DreamWorks. The Cinemark home page is currently promoting Hollywood Ending with a link to a related contest.

OTOH DreamWorks has ads in New Jersey newspapers today for Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron (sneak preview tomorrow) but no newspaper ads for Hollywood Ending. That tells me Woody Allen must be losing it.

| IP: Logged

Charles Everett
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1470
From: New Jersey
Registered: May 2001

posted 07-10-2002 03:19 PM

Now it's Reading Cinemas -- their theater in Manville NJ will not open Road to Perdition on the break.

Every other chain in the NYC metro is getting Road to Perdition. So is the upmarket/arthouse Princeton Garden Theatre.

| IP: Logged

Darryl Spicer
Film God

Posts: 3250
From: Lexington, KY, USA
Registered: Dec 2000

posted 07-10-2002 06:12 PM

Once again a major theater chain refuses to play with Dreamwork's film terms.

Well, it looks like Cinemark is telling Dreamworks they don't want there Road To Perdition at there terms. From what I hear it is the 80% take that Dreamworks wants off ticket sales.

| IP: Logged

All times are Central (GMT -6:00)

This topic comprises 2 pages: 1 2

Printer-friendly view of this topic

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.