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John Walsh
Film God
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From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 01-17-2002 06:02 PM
Obviously, it's tough to know what to do. The owner/upper managment there seems a bit messed up. If they blame broken things on you that have been wrong (and reported) for many years is not right.It's next to impossible to guess what the owner has/had in mind, but on a wild guess, I'd say he suspects you stole money, or has been unhappy with your work for some time. But he can't prove anything specific. So he made up a bunch of stuff to (look like) he is justified in terminating you. Again I'm guessing, but I suspect this has been in the works for some time. I doubt very much that the notes from the new hire alone did it. Many laywers will give you a short, simple consultation if you'd like to pursue it. It's bad enough being let go, but to be called a drunk and a stoner is really bad.
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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-17-2002 06:44 PM
Never quit! Make the bastards fire you. Don't sue unless he starts slandering you to other people. I suspect that you will find better employment at twice the compensation very soon. I'm sure there are many temperary jobs related to the Olympics.
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Bob Maar
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From: New York City & Newport, RI
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 01-17-2002 07:16 PM
Dave,Take a break, gather your thoughts and deceide what you want to do with your life. You sound like a bright person so don't let them drag you down to their level. Ian's advice is perfect. Listen to him. Put this behind you and move on. Your film-tech family is rooting for you.
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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 01-17-2002 08:06 PM
I worked for a major theater chain as a projectionist. As such, I did a lot of things for them in hopes that they would recognize my abilitys and talents and recommend me for a area tech position. My friends and family warned me that they were taking advantage of me and to not be a sap! Nonetheless, I remained optomistic...besides I rather enjoyed maintaining that equipment and taking personal pride in doing my part to maintain a first class presentation!In any case, I have wrote in other threads some of the crap this company/management pulled...and their attitude to their "valued" employees. Anyhow, they falsly accused me of damaging their equipment and fired me, and tried to hind behind AZ being a right to work state and all the crap that entails. So what did I do? Applied for temp. unemployment whil I looked for a new job. Anyhow, in order to qualify for unemployment the State had to do an investigation regarding the circumstances of my discharge. The State found in my favour, and I have a nice letter exonerating me of any wrong doing ! Maybe my experience can help you out? As everyone said, be optomistic and press on with your life. But I would definately take legal action if they slander you and jeoperdize future employment opportunities!
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Dave Bird
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From: Perth, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 01-17-2002 09:18 PM
We've talked a fair bit about getting rid of problem employees, this is the other side. One thing most jurisdictions have in common is that you can't just up and fire someone without proper procedure (it's almost too hard to fire someone). I don't know what the laws are in Utah, and we of course don't know the entire story, but it sounds like you were:-a long term, trusted employee. -in good standing (no previous warnings). -supported well by co-workers (Red Flag here, usually when someone is let go that deserves it, most co-workers will say "It was about time", NOT resign en masse.) I'd say damages for Wrongful Dismissal may be possible, but don't waste alot of time on it unless your Principles are in play. Lawsuits seldom turn out well for anybody, and only the lawyers get rich.
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Jerry Chase
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Margate, FL, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-19-2002 10:57 AM
As has been pointed out before, the film-tech site has many lurkers and public venting might not be wise.I also regret that Dave had the experience of being fired; from his posts here he seems to be a good person.
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Dave Williams
Wet nipple scene
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 01-19-2002 02:29 PM
To my fellow film techers, I humbly offer my sincere apologies. I was very short and angry when I wrote my post. I hope that this does not diminish my standing amongst you all. I am actualy a fairly calm individual, and as such get walked on a bit. Sometimes that comes out in the word form.I have edited my earlier message to be much shorter but has the same feeling and intensity. Dave PS.... mark, good idea, I already am scripting the whole episode into a film, but it ends differenltly with me as a secret agent protecting the world against bad theater owners. Dave
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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-19-2002 05:57 PM
Joe, Here's the link to the Wasatch beers list. http://www.wasatchbeers.com/pages/beers.html It includes the now scandlous POLIGAMY PORTER beer(Why Have Just One?)....Overall they make the best beers I've ever tasted. I love their slogan, "We Drink Our Share and Sell The Rest"Brad, Sorry about trying to cotinut this in the wrong forum, ya know we're at almost 5 thousand feet here and I rarely come down to "Ground Level". Dave, Lets meet over at Brewvies and down a few Wasatch's. Dave and Matt that run brewvies are real nice guys, I should introduce you to them. They're still bugging me about doing a dual projecytor 3D show, and now whant to do 70mm film fest too. They might need your help to pull that off. Going there sure beats going to the Tower when it comes to the artsy stuff. The food over there is also real good! Mark @ GTS
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Dave Williams
Wet nipple scene
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 01-21-2002 11:46 AM
Mark, Im on for that. I will tell you when I am NOT free for that. Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and this weekend. I spend all day tuesdays and wednesdays and every other weekend with my daughter. Brad, I am having trouble with my email for some reason, my computer is acting up. If you read this, can you delete or edit the posts from film handlers forum so that it is either gone or at least reads how I edited this one. That would be great. You know, the one thing that always got to me, was the company policy that said and I quote "...any missing ticket stubs will be considered a cash shortage and will be dealt with accordingly." Now can anyone tell me how a missing ticket STUB is a cash shortage? I NEVER enforced it. I just couldn't see how a STUB not there is a cash shortage. The owner explained it as a way to stop box office people from selling ticket stubs. Well thats all fine and dandy, but it doesnt take into account the people that buy too many tickets or buy too early and cant make it, and then never come back to get a refund or try to get a refund. Dave
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