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Mike Blakesley
Film God

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From: Forsyth, Montana
Registered: Jun 99

posted 03-12-2002 02:46 AM

Had a lady complain to me tonight about the "nudity" in the Spider-man trailer. While I explained to her it was a girl in a wet t-shirt, not nude, I am still surprised they included that scene and that the MPAA passed it. Anyone else had complaints?

(BTW the feature film was "Crossroads," you'd think the lady would've found enough to complain about in the feature!)

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Dennis Benjamin
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From: Denton, MD
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posted 03-12-2002 01:25 PM

No complaints - just teenage boys asking when they can purchase tickets for the film.

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Arthur Allen
Film Handler

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From: Renton, WA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001

posted 03-12-2002 01:27 PM

Okay, maybe not the best capture, but it seems to be mostly 3-D with no colors showing through.

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David Favel
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From: Ashburton, New Zealand
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 03-13-2002 12:31 AM

Yea, we are showing that trailer too.

Is is soooooooooooo cool or what?

This trailer has generated the most enquiries since The Matrix.

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Dave Williams
Wet nipple scene

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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 03-13-2002 02:58 AM

Anyone who thinks she is NUDE is NUTS. HOT is more like it. Every year she gets older, she gets hotter, and I get dirtier.

Someone complains, tell em maybe if the did the wet teeshirt thing, they could be kissing a large spider too.

As for the MPAA passing it, hey, its run by jack valenti, a very OLD man, and probably likes a good nipple now and then.

Dave

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Brian Hogan
Expert Film Handler

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From: Charlotte, North Carolina, USA
Registered: Jul 2001

posted 03-13-2002 03:33 AM

mmmmm, wet

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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
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posted 03-13-2002 07:36 AM

As for the lady watching Crossroads it reminds me of all the complaints we got about the buggery scenes in Wilde. I was working in a rather conservative town in the south-west of England at the time, and we had a stream of elderly customers coming out and complaining about how terrible it was that we were showing obscene pornography, that they'd have the council shut us down and (so said one bloke) that I would personally burn in Hell for having subjected him to this filth.

The problem, IMHO, was that the film was marketed in trailers and advertising as a cute BBC costume drama aimed at a target audience of middle-class seniles, but the film itself dealt with Wilde's homosexuality in a way which left nothing to the imagination, so the middle-class seniles had problems coping with it. The cellar scene in Pulp Fiction is just as explicit, but no-one complained about that.

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Greg Anderson
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From: Ogden Valley, Utah
Registered: Nov 1999

posted 03-13-2002 11:01 AM

Leo brings this topic into focus with the concept of marketing. The wet T-shirt sends a clear message to my friend (whose 7-year-old loves Spiderman) that he's not going to want to take his 7-year-old to see this movie. Not every parent will realize that until they're sitting in the theatre with their kids... and then they'll just become angry. It's too bad. The 1978 Superman movie was safe enough for children to watch but it was still fun for adults. It would be nice if someone were successful at that formula again rather than appeal to the dirty old men crowd (or the high school "I just discovered breasts and I want to see more details" mentality). Like Titanic, the Spiderman story isn't about boobs, but by this time two months from now some people will think it is... and it'll be difficult to defend the filmmakers who encouraged people to misinterpret them.

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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
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posted 03-14-2002 03:12 PM

Hmm.... not sure where I stand on this. On the one hand I suspect this won't be a film masterpiece if they need to use sex just to make anyone over the age of 10 sit through it, but on the other I don't think that a 'wet t-shirt' shot on its own is much to worry about.

Throughout the last century of film-making, there have been films which appeal to kids on one level and adults on another, usually through references to sexuality which the adults are supposed to pick up but which go right over the kids' heads. For example, look at some of the 40s Tom & Jerry cartoons in which Tom comes to grief as the result of going after a female cat who is represented with exaggerated breasts, curves and so on... you get the idea. None of the kids are going to pick up this idea in any harmful way, and I'd need some convincing that this Spiderman example is any more direct than that.

If I had kids, then whether or not I'd be willing to let them see this film would depend on the context of the 'wet t-shirt' scene. If the jokes about female sexuality were subtle, clever and carefully designed so that young children were not supposed to pick them up, then I'd have no problem. If, on the other hand, sexual characterisations and/or stereotypes were a crucial part of the film's story, then I would have problems.

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Dick Vaughan
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From: Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK
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posted 03-15-2002 02:10 AM

My seven year old son saw the trailer when we took the family to see Lord Of The Rings. As yet I have not seen any adverse effect on his behaviour. He can see much more explicit images on primetime TV.

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