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Topic: COCONUT OIL or not coconut oil
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Geoffrey Weiss
Film Handler
Posts: 68
From: Lexington, KY, USA
Registered: May 2001
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posted 05-23-2002 11:07 AM
Ah, the coconut oil controversy ...The Center for Science in the Public Interest has stirred up publicity with bad science on more than one occassion. At our theatre during the coconut oil controversy, people began asking and we proudly told them that we popped in a blend of coconut & corn oil (Snack Chief brand, I believe). Of course, many were horrified, but we kept our reputation as having "the best popcorn in Louisville." Finally Boxoffice magazine published a refutation of the whole canola-oil-is-healthier press release from the CFSIPI. Didn't convince some of our patrons until we pointed to our manager, who had lost forty pounds and not diminished his popcorn intake at all. We finally just told people that if occassional movie popcorn did their arteries any damage, they were getting way too much fat from other sources. As for myself, give me coconut oil taste or nothing (hold the buttery topping, which really is bad for you). Canola-oil-popped popcorn tastes like styrofoam packing material.
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John Scott
Master Film Handler
Posts: 252
From: Oakdale, MN, USA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 05-23-2002 06:41 PM
At my previous theatre (before I was promoted) I talked our Concession Director into letting me change from Orville Redenbacher Popcorn and Canola Oil to White Popcorn and Coconut oil (We also added seasonings for the customers to use like Parmesan cheese (not very popular), Ranch powder (somewhat popular), Tobassco Sauce (suprisingly very popular), garlic salt (so so), and Brewers Yeast (Hugely popular). My sales and per cap went up a great deal, and even though it was over a year ago this happened, when we last spoke in person a couple of months ago he told me that he is still getting positive comment cards about how the theatre's popcorn is the best in the city. Coconut is a pain in the butt to use though, since you will need a melting wand, and a hairdryer to melt your oil lines, but the quality is so much better than Canola.
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David Stambaugh
Film God
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From: Eugene, Oregon
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 05-23-2002 07:45 PM
Coconut oil until the next big public scare about its health issues. Then canola oil for a while to falsely placate the health-conscious segment of customers. Then back to coconut after the dust settles (or the plaque hardens).(Actually I like popcorn popped in canola oil. We had a commercial popcorn popper at Dynamix, and we tried both coconut "oil" and canola oil, and most people preferred canola. It seemed like the popcorn popped more uniformly in canola too). Brewer's yeast is great! More theaters need to offer it.
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Chad Souder
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 962
From: Waterloo, IA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 05-23-2002 07:52 PM
John -Is White popcorn a brand name or a color, because as far as I knew, all popcorn is white, it's just the color of the oil that differs. You won't need a hair dryer if you drain your tube when done popping. This can be done easily by keeping the line straight and the pail or BIB low so the oil runs back down after it pumps (and doesn't sit in a bend), or simply disconnect the line and drain into a cup when all done for the day. As for the initial heating, coconut oil seems to like to go liquid right around 85 degrees I think. Rather than relying solely on a wand, if you have a small room you can keep at 90 or 95 degrees, store your oil in there and it'll be ready to go right when you need it. Regardless of the method, coconut oil is well worth it, fatty or not. What gets me is when people order a large, extra butter popcorn with a large diet coke.
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Chad Souder
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 962
From: Waterloo, IA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 05-24-2002 09:36 AM
Brad - I'm glad you mentioned the electrical transformer, because that's the same place we keep ours next to. We have a small room with one in it and it stays right at 90 degrees in there. Although we have 50 lb pails, I have heard the BIB are easier to deal with overall. The nice thing with pails is, you're never short of metal buckets to use for whatever.Brad - it tastes fishy because it's canola oil. Probably smells like a big ol' fish fry is going on too. The popper you use should tell you how much oil to use, but on our 48 oz. kettle, we use 16 oz. of oil. Incidentally, the mall right next to our theatre just had a new popcorn machine put in it, and I couldn't be happier. It's fully automated. You put in a dollar and watch as it air pops the corn which then flies through some clear tubes into a tub for you. You can add butter topping and salt if you want. The presentation is pretty cool, but it tastes like absolute dog shit, which just makes our product more desirable. ------------------ "Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk!" - Homer Simpson
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Jerry Chase
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Margate, FL, USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-24-2002 10:38 AM
Brad Haven, one cup of oil to one cup of seed, and canola to top it off? Popcorn done wrong! Fishy tasting canola oil is oil that has started to go rancid. Processors now hydrogenate the oil to prevent this, losing any of the purported health benefits of the oil in the process.The correct oil/seed ratio has to do with seed type, popout, burning, and speed. The idea is to maximize the expansion of the corn and keep the cooking time short enough so that the corn doesn't burn. In a 20oz charge of corn, start with 6oz of oil as a beginning point. Once the kettle has been in use for a while, you can fine tune to get a more exact ratio. After doing a lot of research, I firmly believe all theatres should dump canola. It was foisted upon our industry and the characteristics and smoke point are unsuitable for use in popping corn. Coconut and peanut oils are much more suitable. I've spoken out on this before in other threads.
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