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Author Topic: Movie Credit Roll Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 08-10-2003 01:04 AM                     30 years ago, "The End" was the end. In some of today's movies, "The End" occurs almost 10 minutes later after the "The Pre End." I just noticed that AGAIN - in Pirates of the Caribbean. I suppose that, of course, no little fishies were harmed in filming, commodes by Kohler, flush valves by Regal, toilet paper by Kimberly-Clark, etc. etc. etc. But I still show the credits in case some dilrod wants to know who supplied the toilets. Yes, I am a little facetious about this, but Jeeze....  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 08-10-2003 02:31 AM                     It used to be that all the credits were at the beginning of the film and the only thing after "THE END" was another cast call, but only if the director felt the performances were worthy of the additional credit.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 08-10-2003 05:27 AM                        Disney's end credits were notoriously fast... THE END! You barely had time to get the curtains closed on some of their pictures! In later years, Mel Brooks did the same stunt with "Blazing Saddles". I think the end roll on that picture was about 13 seconds flat!  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 08-10-2003 10:25 AM                       Jack, remember on the first screening of those Disney pictures, and you were on the last reel waiting to changeover, wondering if it was indeed the end of the movie and you weren't missing a reel?! Paul "standby chargehand painter" always gets me. They credit someone who wasn't even working! Credits have long gotten out of hand (remember the first Superman movie, the entire last reel was credits - and "Rock-A-Doodle" had a reel change IN the credits!) I wish they would go back to what they used to do: major creative credited at the beginning, cast again at the end, OVER! That would also thwart television's annoying practice of squishing the credits into the side of the screen and running them at 10x speed (what's the idea behind that - no one can even hope to read them, so why bother?). Who the caterer was, who drove the portable dressing rooms, or who coiled up the generator cables makes no difference to the creation of the movie.  |  IP: Logged Steve Anderson Expert Film Handler Posts: 168 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Feb 2000 posted 08-10-2003 11:03 AM                        I noticed one theater here, clipped the "pirates" credits just after the main production credits. Did a pretty good job...right on a music beat. I guess they had to get that monkey on screen quicker.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-10-2003 12:06 PM                     If i went inot a theatre and watched a show and the credits were cut or not shown there would be one fast call to the distributor  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 08-10-2003 02:32 PM                        I am thankful to those that run all of the credits, for I am one of those "dilrods" Paul mentioned. If I'm staying through the credits, it's not so much that I want to see who the clapper loader was. It's usually more about wanting to hear all of the music play out. Showing the entire film as it's makers intended is as much a professional courtesy as it is a requirement. Theater management and staff that clip off or don't show all the credits and play all of the music, or who try to shoo us dilrods out--should be taken out back and switched, and not by an electrician! Or maybe hooked up to a xenon power supply with the ignitor set to auto-strike...  |  IP: Logged Edward Jurich Master Film Handler Posts: 305 From: Las Vegas USA Registered: Jul 2003 posted 08-10-2003 03:24 PM                     Can't they just put all those misc credits on the one sheet and save the cost of a 10 minute reel. Shortest ending I ever came across was "North by Northwest" and I really wondered if the end of the reel was missing as the film got closer to the hub before Hitchcock wrapped it up.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 08-10-2003 06:03 PM                        quote: Jack, remember on the first screening of those Disney pictures, and you were on the last reel waiting to changeover, wondering if it was indeed the end of the movie and you weren't missing a reel?! Ummmmmmmmmm..... yah. Reminds me of one of my less memorable moments in the booth. We were running one of those shows, I was in college, thinking about classes, doing homework during my shift... probably not focused on "da job"... definitely burning the candle from both ends. Somehow, I missed the bell & looked up just in time to see the screen go dark. So.... I brought up the lights, pulled the curtain, turned off the sound, turned on the cleaning lights & headed out of the booth & down the stairs. The manager met me in the lobby and said something like, "Isn't it a bit early for this show to be out?". I said "well, it is". He pointed out that we had started on time, so it was curious that this particular show had ended earlier than all the others. So.... back up the stairs, into the booth... guess what? There's a full reel of film in the other projector Guess I was lucky it was such a slow night. I heard about that one for MONTHS, and became quite popular with those late shift managers who had been looking for their own "get out early" tactics.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 08-10-2003 06:31 PM                     That's what I liked about the drive-in theatres. When we got fogged out to the point where all is visable is a cone of light shooting out of the projection window, we can leave a reel out or make a couple of early changeovers and nobody would know the difference. Usually all the cars found their way out and gone before the movie was over anyway.  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 08-10-2003 07:01 PM                        quote: When we got fogged out... we can leave a reel out or make a couple of early changeovers and nobody would know the difference We'd never get to that point, Paul. At the first hint of the stuff I get people complaining about headaches, nausia, acid indigestion and other miscellaneous burning sensations!  |  IP: Logged Ron Keillor Expert Film Handler Posts: 166 From: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Registered: Jul 2003 posted 08-10-2003 09:41 PM                     What patrons who sit through credits usually want to know is: a location or song details, or if they're professionals, who was the caterer - the sign of a good shoot. Locally, we have a lot of interest also in the special effects crews. So end credit visibility is a must. VOLCANO (or the other one) had a really long set of end credits; we could rid the auditorium of the stragglers by telling them the location was Wallace, Idaho, and they left happy.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-10-2003 09:44 PM                     Well we supplie dailies projection to some films and I for one want to see the credit up there that was in the agreement  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 08-10-2003 11:20 PM                        Aother reason why I like to remain for the credits beside knowing the location of principle photography and other technical matters is to listen to the music score. Many times, the best music is played during the end credits. One of my all time favorite is by John Conte and the end music he wrote for "THE RIGHT STUFF". Beside his own style, he very cleverly makes his music sound like a passage from Holst's "THE PLANETS" and the Polonaise from Tchaikovsky's opera "EUGENE ONEGIN. Many Academy Award winning songs are also played only during the end credits. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 08-11-2003 12:02 AM                        As opposed to Bill Williams...  |  IP: Logged

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