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Author Topic: Star Wars - two versions? Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 06-07-2005 11:53 PM                    There's a debate raging in a star wars forum concerning a line in the movie. It seems that some people remember hearing Padme say: "So this is how democracy dies... with thunderous applause." ...and some remember hearing her say: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause." For both of my prints, she says "liberty". Does anyone have a print where she says "democracy"? Or maybe in DLP she says it? I personally can't imagine there being two versions, as the dialog is mouthed on the screen, but I suppose anything is possibe, especially with GL. Personally, I think it's probably the power of suggestion playing games with people's minds. [ 06-10-2005, 08:43 PM: Message edited by: Mark J. Marshall ]  |  IP: Logged Mike Heenan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1896 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-08-2005 12:10 AM                     Wasn't there reports of the DLP version of Ep. 1 being different?  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-08-2005 02:05 AM                        Maybe these people are thinking of the line later in the film where Obi-Wan says, "My allegiance is ... to democracy!"  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-08-2005 03:14 AM                     I know Episode II had a scene at the end involving two different hands.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 06-08-2005 08:08 AM                    There's a lot of lines referencing democracy. Palpatine says it at the opera scene too. Like I said I think it was the power of suggestion for the people that think they heard it. I dont see how there would be two different versions in the US - I mean some theaters have five or six prints. I think someone here would have noticed it by now. Some people claim to have seen it recently in DLP and heard "liberty" so I don't think it's a DLP/film version difference. Some are claiming that it's possibly a domestic version vs international version thing, so I'm really interested to hear from our friends overseas. But I'm even doubting that because some people overseas are claiming to have heard "liberty". Again, I dont think there is anything to this. The DLP version probably is slightly different than the film version, but I dont think this is one of the differences.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-08-2005 10:01 AM                        My question would be this: WHY?  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-08-2005 10:07 AM                     So people would have to go out and buy 2 versions of the DVD...Joe, what does your downloaded copy say? Democracy or Liberty? Mine says...So, this is how the theater industry dies?  |  IP: Logged Eric Hooper Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 532 From: Fort Worth, TX, USA Registered: May 2003 posted 06-09-2005 02:14 PM                     quote: Jeremy Fuentes So people would have to go out and buy 2 versions of the DVD...Joe, what does your downloaded copy say? Democracy or Liberty? Mine says...So, this is how the theater industry dies? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Lol!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-10-2005 08:42 PM                        quote: Mark J. Marshall For both of my prints, she says "libery". That's not what she says on the version I saw, and that is an absolute guarantee!  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 06-10-2005 08:43 PM                    Haha  |  IP: Logged Paul Konen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 981 From: Frisco, TX. (North of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-11-2005 01:04 AM                     Was by a film print tonight. She said Liberty.  |  IP: Logged Christos Mitsakis Expert Film Handler Posts: 242 From: Ag.Paraskevi, ATHENS, GREECE Registered: Sep 1999 posted 06-11-2005 08:32 AM                     OK, a word from overseas. 35mm version, clearly says "..this is how liberty dies.." Not much of a big issue I think. Just for crazy fans to have to talk about. C.  |  IP: Logged Dominic Espinosa Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1172 From: Boulder Creek, CA. Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-20-2005 10:48 AM                     All 3 of my prints said Liberty.  |  IP: Logged Robert John Jeromson Master Film Handler Posts: 264 From: Auckland, New Zealand Registered: Jul 2004 posted 06-20-2005 07:33 PM                     In both of our prints she says "liberty"  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-21-2005 10:01 AM                     Liberty.  |  IP: Logged

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