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Eric Hooper
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 - posted 01-09-2006 12:18 AM      Profile for Eric Hooper   Email Eric Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well my bad then. It was exactly that scene at night with them eating and the close up of the meat hanging up that was missing.

How it played at SR was they shot the elk, then the reel changed to the next morning cooking on the campfire. The night scene (at the end of reel 1) had been cut.

After *not* seeing the scene, I tried to remember what was in it the best I could. I just knew that night scene was missing.

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Scott D. Neff
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 - posted 01-10-2006 03:16 AM      Profile for Scott D. Neff   Author's Homepage   Email Scott D. Neff   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's happened to me before. But usually I just shrug it off. After all, sometimes I forget that I drove portions of my drive home from work -- all of the sudden I'm just near my house and I'm too happy to be there to worry about what might've happened during my brain numbing drive home. [Smile]

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Chris DeGour
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 - posted 01-10-2006 12:16 PM      Profile for Chris DeGour     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ok, I just needed to know that before I said anything. Don't want to talk without knowing the full facts.

I work there. We noticed this post awhile ago (Yeah, we actually DO care ;p) and started working on seeing what the heck was going on.

We've had four prints move through the building, a Promo print, a damaged(replaced before you saw the film) print, and the two prints we were playing up to Friday. We confirmed that this scene was in both the promo and damaged prints. After reading that it was near the reelchange, I went up to check if maybe one of my booth folk had done something really stupid, but couldn't find any evidence of it.

So, I did what I had to, and sat through the first twenty min of each print to verify the scene's on there. I can tell you that it is, in fact on there, on both prints. There is no extra splicing done to perhaps show a person cutting then replacing the scene, so it's kind of a big mystery. I tell you right now, I haven't seen the movie, and probably won't, so my knowledge of the scene I mentioned above comes straight from watching it on these prints.

This isn't a company line or anything, in fact, I'm probably counter-policy talking anyway, lol, but I want to clear up confusion.

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Eric Hooper
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 - posted 01-10-2006 02:33 PM      Profile for Eric Hooper   Email Eric Hooper   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well, I know what I saw (or didn't see for that matter) and my friend I was with who had seen it before also noticed the scene missing too. This would have been the 12/26 7:10pm show.

The plot thickens...

However, you say you've screened the print(s) you're showing now (which you're only showing one print this week) and you say the scene is in there. So that is a good thing, and that's all that matters.

Eric

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Brian Woods
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 - posted 01-11-2006 01:50 PM      Profile for Brian Woods     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
WOW, someone actually sat through a movie like 10 times? I could understand if it was porn, [sex] inwhich I have never seen the beginning or ending to any of the ones I have, nor do I know what the plot line is....I watched the movie and it was just "ok".....With Heath Ledger mumbling through the whole movie, I am surpised people weren't complaining about the sound, sounding muffled. The only other movie I can think of that "should" have had scenes missing is King Kong.....It would have been really funny if you mixed up King Kong with Brokeback...You would have Jake Gyllenhaal telling King Kong...."I wish I knew how to quit you." Now....that's a movie...... [thumbsup]

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David Stambaugh
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 - posted 01-11-2006 03:22 PM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
E!'s "The Soup" did Brokeback Kong

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 01-11-2006 04:47 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Well as far as I'm concerned, hats off to Chris above for taking the time to ensure his prints were complete. [thumbsup]

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Paul Linfesty
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 - posted 01-24-2006 09:04 AM      Profile for Paul Linfesty   Email Paul Linfesty   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
And it even happens at Sundance...

From the Los Angeles Times.

SUNDANCE FILM FESTIVAL
Satire turns mystery: Where's the sex scene?
A 12-second hookup scene starring Katie Holmes was missing from the satirical political comedy "Thank You for Smoking" at a weekend screening.
By John Horn
Times Staff Writer

January 24, 2006

PARK CITY, Utah -- The Sundance Film Festival is all about discovery, but what filmmaker Jason Reitman found out during a screening of "Thank You for Smoking" was unusual even by Sundance standards: The Katie Holmes sex scene in his movie had vanished.

During a packed screening of his satirical political comedy on Saturday night, Reitman and his team were stunned to see that the 12-second hookup between a journalist played by Holmes and a tobacco lobbyist played by Aaron Eckhart had been snipped from the print.

"We were sitting there in shock," Reitman said Monday. "And I turned to other people who had worked on the film, and we were completely confused. But the audience didn't seem to notice or care." When the film was shown the next morning, the encounter was still missing.

Reitman was quick to tell the audiences what they had missed. The news solicited loud moans, but Reitman stopped short of acting out the racy, but hardly explicit, scene.

A couple of theories seemed possible. Had an enterprising operative from US Weekly sneaked into the Eccles Center projection booth and stolen the footage for an exclusive? Did Tom Cruise exert all of his Hollywood muscle to preserve the honor of his pregnant girlfriend? Or maybe conservative Utah activists felt Sundance's decadence had sunk so low, they took matters into their own hands.

The correct answer was not quite as provocative.

Reitman says that when the "Thank You for Smoking" print was assembled in Los Angeles, the scene — which comes at the end of the second reel but is preceded by a brief blackout — had been accidentally sliced off when the reels were spliced together.

The film, which is adapted from Christopher Buckley's novel, premiered at last year's Toronto International Film Festival and was sold to Fox Searchlight in a bidding war and is showing as a Sundance premiere; the movie opens in theaters March 17.

Still, Reitman found some humor — and potential box-office business — in the deletion.

"There were a couple of thousand people who saw the film at Sundance without the Katie Holmes sex scene," Reitman said. "I implore all of them to now go back and see the movie with the Katie Holmes sex scene."

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Bill Gabel
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The missing scene from "Thank You For Smoking", is following a scene at a restaurant, there is a sharp cut to black. And then it fades-in on another short scene for 30 feet. The changeover cues are in this last scene.

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Carl Martin
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 - posted 01-26-2006 05:03 AM      Profile for Carl Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Carl Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
why the heck would the print have been assembled in l.a.?

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Frank Angel
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Cause they think LA has the best people in the industry....wouldn't want some dufus in Utah assembling the print and accidently SLICING OFF A SCENE! [Roll Eyes]

That's what you get for not paying attention to those change-over cues that you youngins say are antiquated and useless! [Razz]

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Jeremy Jorgenson
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Of course, you could also just wind it to the end of the reel... I mean, you don't have changeover marks at the head of the reel if there's a fade in. [Razz]

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William Hooper
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quote:
That's what you get for not paying attention to those change-over cues that you youngins say are antiquated and useless!
Seconded.

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Rick Hunter
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Now is seems 'The projector did it"...

'New news' today

AFP article dated 1/3/2006
quote:
'Smoking' sex scene not cut by Cruise
9:59 AM March 1
Director Jason Reitman says a projection error - not Tom Cruise - was responsible for a missing Katie Holmes sex scene during a screening of her upcoming movie, Thank You for Smoking, at the Sundance Film Festival.
"I was sitting there in the theatre, the scene was missing, and my immediate thought was, 'Oh my God, Fox cut the scene out of my movie,"' Reitman told AP Radio in an interview.
"And then I realised, 'No, if it's at the end of the reel, the projector probably just accidentally cut it out."'
Some blamed Cruise, Holmes' fiance, speculating that he had pressured Reitman, son of Ghost Busters director Ivan Reitman, to remove the scene.
"That's a fun story. I'd read that story. The problem is that it's not true," Reitman said.
"The problem with 'projection error' is that it's the truth but it sounds like a lie. It sounds an awful lot like 'wardrobe malfunction."'
"Wardrobe malfunction" was the term used to explain what happened when Justin Timberlake revealed Janet Jackson's right breast during the halftime show of the 2004 Super Bowl.
Holmes, 27, and Cruise, 43, have been engaged since June. They announced her pregnancy in October.
Aaron Eckhart stars with Holmes, Maria Bello, William H Macy and Sam Elliott in Thank You for Smoking, adapted from Christopher Buckley's satiric novel about a tobacco-industry spin doctor.
Reitman said more people probably know about his movie because the scene went missing.
"The most likely reason that they would have heard of it is because of the sex scene," he said.
The filmmaker also said Holmes' sex scene is as tame as anything you'd see on the Disney Channel.
Thank You for Smoking - with the sex scene - is slated for limited release in the US on March 17


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Brad Miller
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quote:
"And then I realised, 'No, if it's at the end of the reel, the projector probably just accidentally cut it out."'
I HATE it when the projectors cut parts of the movie out!!! [Mad] Darn those freakin' Brenkerts! [Razz]

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