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Author Topic: Broken DLP Makes Customer Leave Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 06-12-2006 07:28 PM                     Polaris Rave 18 -- Far North Columbus OH Made a special trip up there tonight to see CARS with DLP projecction..only DLP in area, and quite a bit out of the way for me. Got a bad feeling when paper signs said CARS in Theatre 1 would be in Theatre 7, knowing that 1 is the DLP screen. Ticket seller confirmed...no DLP and no idea when it would be back up. Very disappointing. Wife and I left. I'll be sure to call up there later in the week before I try again. Wasn't DLP going to solve all of the downtime problems? I thought digital meant perfect!  |  IP: Logged Mike Babb Master Film Handler Posts: 250 From: Norwich UK Registered: Jul 2002 posted 06-12-2006 08:46 PM                        New igniter was installed and back and running today, I did it myself. Sorry you made the trip for nothing...  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 06-12-2006 09:01 PM                        Must not be a digital igniter.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-12-2006 11:44 PM                     What type of system is in use there?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 06-13-2006 02:42 AM                     quote: I thought digital meant perfect! No, sorry..FAR from being perfect in any means... DigCinema opened up a whole new world of problems...just like any computer problems .... chip array problems, sys board problems, server problems, and networking problems....and finally the same..user input error problems... As what used to be posted in the front of this FT site: "FILM - might be a four-letter word.." (forget the rest of this saying...) where I would say, "yet, it has proved itself to be a stable medium." -Monte  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 06-13-2006 05:38 AM                     Mike, Thanks for the information..we'll go back and check it out later in the week. Brad, that is a Real-D system installed for CHICKEN LITTLE. It has run many of the digital releases since the original install.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 06-13-2006 05:57 AM                    one must remember that a lot of things that can prevent a movie from hitting the screen have nothing to do with the projector head. Console and sound can prevent a movie from running or not running at the quality level that it should.  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 06-13-2006 09:47 AM                     What digital projector brand?  |  IP: Logged Mike Babb Master Film Handler Posts: 250 From: Norwich UK Registered: Jul 2002 posted 06-13-2006 10:22 AM                        Barco DP100  |  IP: Logged Dave Williams Wet nipple scene Posts: 1836 From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA Registered: Jan 2000 posted 06-13-2006 04:14 PM                        quote: Monte L Fullmer DigCinema opened up a whole new world of problems...just like any computer problems .... chip array problems, sys board problems, server problems, and networking problems....and finally the same..user input error problems... It would be very interesting to know what the general consensus was when each of the major changes in cinema occurred. If we had a forum like this, we could all go back and look, but hey, we can't really now can we. Really though, what was the majority thought when we introduced... Talking Color Panavision Stereo Surround Stadium Seating Reclining Seats Adjustable Armrests Armrests with drink holders Platters Film-Guard Xenon Lamps Previews Commercials Product Placements On Screen Kissing Hugging Sleeping in the same bed Swearing Digital Sound George Lucas the brilliant George Lucas the current Polyestar Technicolor IMAX and so on.... basically my point is that we are going to have changes, advances, and each time they will not be perfect, and there will be problems. However in time we refine these processes, and move forward to the next technology to try and refine the experience. Film is a time tested technology, but lets face it... We live in a world with limited resources. The amount of whatever it is that is used to make the film is going to increase with the ever increasing number of crap films and population going to see them. Better we build computers that can play hundreds of these crap films and quit transporting these things around wasting fuel and natural resources. It's going to get better. It's better in the long run for the environment. It's better that we at least try to provide a solid entertainment experience, instead of staying in one technology for the end of all time. Ciao  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-13-2006 04:53 PM                     Since when is an igniter problem unique to DLP ?  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 06-14-2006 08:08 AM                    Back when I saw Chicken Little in DLP, I noted that the xenon bulb was on long before the show started. When I asked about that here, someone mentioned that they were told to keep the bulb on all day. I rhetorically asked what the difference was between a xenon bulb in a DLP projector and one in a film projector that necessitated it being on all day, and not surprisingly, I received no answer. Maybe it's because the ignitors aren't reliable.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-14-2006 09:04 AM                        It has something to do with reducing thermal stress on the DLP chips. They would prefer to be hot all the time than to be subject to repeated temperature cycles. I'm surprised that they didn't have a spare igniter at the theatre; if they did, then the show wouldn't have been lost. Did they have a backup 35mm print, or was the screen dark until the repair could be completed?  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 06-14-2006 09:16 AM                     Barco chassis is very modular so the fix should have been easy.....still dealing with a lamphouse and power supply working to a projection head  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-14-2006 10:01 AM                     In order to achieve longer lamp life, DCinema machines reduce the number of ignitions. ANY flicker in a lamp immediately shows on a video image...there is no shutter to mask it like with a film projector.  |  IP: Logged

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