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Author Topic: shiny floors Kara Tillotson Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Manistee Mi Registered: Jul 2006 posted 12-26-2006 02:25 PM                        I was wondering, what would you suggest to use to get out mosiac tiled floor nice and shiny? It looks so pretty when its wet from mopping it, but that of sourse doesnt stay when it dries.  |  IP: Logged Floyd Justin Newton Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 559 From: Phoenix, Arizona, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 12-26-2006 02:54 PM                     Use a commercial floor wax that'll not leave a slippery surface. You don't want lawsuits!  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-26-2006 07:04 PM                        HAve someone who strips & polishes floors for a living come in and strip & wax/seal the floor. From then on, a routine regimen of cleaning with a neutral cleaner and clean rayon mopheads will give you the best overall results..  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 12-26-2006 09:12 PM                     I'm with Jason on this one, best way is to have it done professionaly-though be wary, rates can vary by quite a bit. The wax will eventually wear off, so you'll need them to come in from time to time to do it again. Depending on business levels at your theatre 2-4 times a year should be sufficient.  |  IP: Logged Barry Floyd Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1079 From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 12-28-2006 08:44 AM                        We replaced our painted concrete floors in our concessions building last winter with a commercial vinyl composition tile. I layed it myself over the course of 3 weeks (usually working 4-5 hours a night)and ended up putting 7 coats of wax on it to get it up a decent wear-ability factor. After I put the 7 coats of wax on with a clean rayon mop, I let it cure for 4 days then I rented a buffer and went to town. The buffing part was the easiest, however you can quickly burn a whole through the layers of wax if your not careful. I took a spray bottle, filled it with the liquid wax and "spray buffed" the floors on the final pass. The results were amazing!! The floors had a deep high gloss finish that looked like glass when they were done. Now that we're closed for the winter, I've got to do it again, but this time I have to strip off the original wax and re-seal the floors. The hardest part of the whole process was moving all of the equipment out of the way. We ended up with 2 platters in the office, and all of the concessions equipment in the womens restroom. If you've got the money... hire somebody to do it, as I've heard the stripping of the wax can be a pain in the butt.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 12-28-2006 09:05 AM                        I wasn't going to respond since the original topis was a mosaic floor topic: There is no substitute for warehouse floor paint; epoxy 2 coat. EVERYTHING must be stripped, cleaned and acid etched before application. "40 years of floor maintenance in 2 days" is a very good way to look at this. Expensive, yes; will never wear out. Can be too slick if not handled properly. The advantage of this is no wax, ever; forever shiny. Acid can't touch it. Remember in concessions and theatre floors, Coke is the enemy. It will lift any tile except ceramic; it will lift any normal paint, except epoxy 2 step, and it will attack the top level of concrete because it is acidic. Louis  |  IP: Logged Joe Elliott Master Film Handler Posts: 497 From: Port Orange, Fl USA Registered: Oct 2006 posted 12-28-2006 03:52 PM                     Back when I managed the drive-in, we used a product from ZEP and I can't recall the name of it, but I just checked their web site, and apparently they don't make it anymore anyway. It seems to be the same as some of their UHS Burnishing finishes. We would mop it on once a month or so. It was more like a clear acrylic paint than wax. It would shine vinyl tile, ceramic tile, even painted floors. It would take about 3 or 4 coats to get a good shine to start, and then a thin coat once a month.  |  IP: Logged Jason Black Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1723 From: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-28-2006 11:32 PM                        A quick Google yields.. A really long link that I should have shortened. [ 01-11-2007, 06:09 PM: Message edited by: Adam Martin ]  |  IP: Logged Joe Elliott Master Film Handler Posts: 497 From: Port Orange, Fl USA Registered: Oct 2006 posted 12-30-2006 09:48 PM                     I remembered the name, it was Zep Shield. It's great stuff. Still don't know if they still make it, as I could not find it through the regular links on the website, but when I did a search on it I found it. Here's the info I found on it. ZEP SHIELD TYPE: Durable, Low-Maintenance Floor Finish PROD. #1971 BENEFITS: Zep Shield is a slip-resistant, water-based emulsion, acrylic copolymer, dry-bright finish that offers high durability and low maintenance. Metal-interlocked. Resistant to traffic scuffs and black heel marks. Each coat dries in 20 to 30 minutes. Easy to apply and level. Recoats and blends well with existing finish. Part of Zep`s "Next Step" system of floor care products. Meets or exceeds Slip Resistance Standards (when properly maintained) established by CSPA and UL as tested in accordance with ASTM D-2047. CAUTION: Product should be kept from freezing. If they don't make it anymore, you may be able to get whatever they replaced it with. We were very happy with Shield, but I should warn you, it doesn't come back up easily. Treat it as if you are painting the floor, and don't get it on anything you don't want it on, like carpet or walls.  |  IP: Logged Adam Fraser Master Film Handler Posts: 499 From: Houghton Lake, MI, USA Registered: Dec 2001 posted 01-03-2007 10:51 AM                        I do know you can get some Zep brand products at Home Depot or Gordon Food Service (dont remember which). We have bought their wood floor cleaner before and seems to work fine. Maybe one of them can special order it if not in stock.  |  IP: Logged Kara Tillotson Film Handler Posts: 87 From: Manistee Mi Registered: Jul 2006 posted 01-11-2007 05:21 PM                        thanks. I will see what I can find. We did rent a buffer etc. I think it just went so long without any care its going to take a million coats of wax to get it shiny. I just want sure if there was some sort of thick shellac stuff used on porcelin or not.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 01-13-2007 08:25 AM                        See my post above. This epoxy paint is severely clear (you can see the bottom of a 5 gallon bucket.) Maybe, if you can find a good prep method; clear epoxy would give you what you want with the added advantage that wax would never be needed. Brand name: Tennant; they have sales engineers. Louis  |  IP: Logged

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