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Ron Keillor
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Pirates of the Canadians

GAYLE MACDONALD

From Saturday's Globe and Mail

It was the kind of letter that can ruin a guy's day.

Late in November, Twentieth Century Fox fired off a blunt, one-page missive to Ellis Jacob, the Toronto-based chief executive of Cineplex Entertainment, Canada's biggest cinema chain.

Bruce Snyder, Fox's Hollywood-based president of domestic distribution, had spent the last few weeks steaming mad after his team pinpointed Canadian theatres — primarily in Montreal — as the source of illegal camcording of a steady stream of Fox blockbusters, including Borat, Eragon and Night at the Museum.

Snyder was sick of it. In the Nov. 30 letter, he warned Jacob, a friend and business associate for 20 years, to do something — or he would.

Then he threatened to do something unprecedented in Canadian distribution history: Fox could stop sending copies of all its films to Cineplex Entertainment's 130 movie houses, with close to 1,300 screens. Or, Fox might decide to delay the Canadian release of popular films until a few weeks after their U.S. release.

In the letter, Snyder fumed that his company had discerned that, at one point during 2006, Canadian theatres were the source for nearly 50 per cent of illegal camcords across the globe: “Much like an out-of-control epidemic, those Canadian camcords ... have become a leading source of worldwide Internet film piracy.”

Jacob, whose company is the world's fourth-largest theatre chain in terms of revenue and fifth-biggest measured by locations/screens, felt physically ill. More so, he readily admits, because he recognized Snyder was absolutely right. Cineplex Entertainment — in conjunction with the Canadian Motion Picture Distributors Association (CMPDA), the RCMP and other movie chains such as Empire and AMC — have been lobbying the federal government for years to make it a criminal offence to pirate films. But so far their efforts have fallen on deaf ears. Sophisticated thieves toting black-leather bags with remote zooms, monitor devices and infrared sound receivers, and wearing sweatshirts or jackets with special holes designed to surround the lens of a camera, are having a field day.

For the third year in a row, the U.S. government has placed Canada on its “watch list” for a lack of IPR (intellectual-property rights) enforcement, which means this country is in the same company as notorious film-piracy hubs such as Lebanon, China, the Philippines and Russia.

“We're doing everything we can, but we have problems with the government not doing enough,” says Jacob. “We've caught people camcording in our theatres, but all we can do is tell them to leave, and they show up the next day again.

“In the States, you're criminally charged because it's theft. Here, if someone steals five DVDs from Blockbuster, law enforcement swoops down. But someone leaves my theatre with a pirated video in his pocket, and we can't get the police to come,” he says.

“We want people to come to the theatre and enjoy the experience. We don't want to turn theatres into airport check-ins, but it might have to get to that point.”

Reached by phone at his office in Beverly Hills, Calif., Snyder says he understands Jacob's frustration with Canada's lax laws. But he adds that unless Cineplex, other Canadian movie chains and the government crack down on film piracy, he will have to take matters into his own hands.

Snyder is also considering pushing Canada's theatrical release behind the U.S. date by a week or two. “At least we would then have a running start before we have to start competing with ourselves.”

The U.S. Motion Picture Association (MPA) claims that in 2005 piracy cost American studios $6.1-billion (U.S.). In Canada, the CMPDA estimates its members lost $118-million (U.S.) the same year.

“What drove us to write that letter was the blatant and continuing camcording of our movies, primarily now in Montreal, but previously in Toronto,” says Snyder, whose company, along with Fox Searchlight, is one of the largest distributors in the world.

“Canada is now the prime culprit in the world. Once we started busting people in New York, Detroit and Chicago, they quickly figured out the place to be is in Canada. There simply are not enough teeth in your laws.”

In 2005, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the Family Entertainment and Copyright Act, which made camcording in a theatre a federal felony. John Fithian, president of the U.S. National Association of Theater Owners, adds that 38 of the 50 states have specific state laws that impose criminal sanctions against camcorder pirates, both fines and jail time.

But in Canada, the theft of intellectual property is basically treated as a “soft crime,” says CMPDA president Doug Frith. “Canada has done nothing to remedy its lack of domestic enforcement and complete absence of border enforcement.

“We're very frustrated with the legislative vacuum we have here,” adds Frith, who points out that theatre operators have no right to detain an individual they detect camcording a motion picture, or to confiscate their recording. “We're the laughing stock when it comes to piracy in the world.”

Frith says government bureaucrats try to placate him by saying that under the Copyright Act exhibitors have the ability to charge someone criminally. “But here's the catch. Under the Copyright Act, you have to prove that an individual camcording in the theatre is doing it for distribution purposes. That's almost impossible.

“Front-line employees catch a guy sitting in the front row camcording Mission: Impossible III, they call police and they're told it's a matter for the RCMP because [the] Copyright [Act] is federal.

“We don't want to have to prove the economic loss from distribution. We want it to be a Criminal Code activity to be caught camcording. Period.”

The RCMP readily concedes there has been a radical growth in film piracy in this country in recent years. With help from Interpol, it has also found a clear link between organized crime and film piracy, often more profitable than drug trafficking.

“If money is involved, organized crime is going to be involved,” says Andris Zarins, the RCMP's national intellectual property crime co-ordinator.

With film piracy, the rewards can be huge, while the risks of any meaningful law enforcement are currently low, Zarins adds.

Take the example of one of the few film pirates Canada has actually arrested and prosecuted. Several months ago, police in Richmond, B.C., raided a small business in a strip mall, seizing thousands of counterfeit DVDs. It arrested the owner, 46-year-old Chiu Lau, who was fined (for his third time in three years) under the Copyright Act.

Last Remembrance Day, Lau pleaded guilty to 83 counts under the Copyright Act. He got a $5,000 fine and a 12-month conditional sentence. A further wrist slap? He was confined to his home from 11 p.m. to 7 a.m.

“Minimal fines of $5,000 or $6,000 are a joke,” says Frith. “These guys view it as a cost of doing business. If we raid them on Friday, they're back in business on Monday morning.”

Contrast that to the arrest of Hollywood's so-called “Prince of Piracy.” Last month, Johnny Ray Gasca, 36, was sentenced to seven years in prison for copyright infringement after multiple arrests and a 16-month manhunt. And prior to that in New York, the FBI arrested 13 members of two large-scale international movie-piracy rings that had been under surveillance for three years. If convicted, each could face up to five years in prison. Last October, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg also vowed to find, sue and shut down landlords who knowingly house people who sell pirated DVDs.

Last summer, Toronto police — with the help of the CMPDA — busted a major counterfeit DVD operation in another suburban strip mall, seizing 140 DVD-CD burners, and 20,000 copies of counterfeit movies. They arrested four people.

Frith estimates the seized burners could have produced more than three-million pirated discs in one year, worth about $17-million (Canadian).

“We want law enforcement to be able to go after those individuals — to be able to seize cash in the till, to go to their homes, to their cars. I'm not blaming the RCMP. They have their priorities, what with border security and terrorism, but we have a legislative and an enforcement vacuum. We have to allow other police jurisdictions to assist the copyright industry.”

Fox's Snyder is particularly irked at the persistent amount of camcording he and his distribution team have been able to track directly back to several of Cineplex's Montreal theatres. (Fox and other studios use forensic watermarking to know the exact time, date and auditorium where a copy was made.) “The reality is in 2005, 20 per cent of all identified camcordings occurred in Canada,” says Frith. “That's a huge number. And it's growing.

“These aren't individuals who want to make a few extra bucks,” he adds. “They're extremely sophisticated organizations, who use the latest tools, are well organized, tech savvy and well funded.

The scam attracts this calibre of crook because the pay is good. A good camcording of a film can fetch $5,000 to $7,000 from pirate distributors. Make two or three a weekend, Frith points out, and “you're earning between $500,000 and $700,000 a year.”

But there are plenty of amateurs in the game as well. Most people who view pirated movies don't pay for them. They download them for free over the Internet at websites such as BitTorrent or Shareaza.

There are some non-techie diehards, though, who still buy bootleg DVDs, out of car trunks, in roadside stalls, flea markets, downtown shops and suburban strip malls, in every city — and most towns — across Canada.

Often, the quality of these recordings is abysmal, with people chatting in the background or heads popping up in the picture when a cinemagoer makes a beeline for the concession stand. But some are good enough for the less discerning movie fan.

But enterprising chaps like Gary — a 37-year-old Durham, Ont., man — have found ways to make pirated DVDs they claim are as good as anything coming off the shelves at Wal-Mart.

Gary — not his real name — heads into his local Blockbuster the instant a feature film is released on DVD. He burns the movie, usually making up to seven copies, the first night. He then sells his pirated DVDs for $10 a piece to 150 of his closest friends. He says it's a great side business to his full-time job, paying for all the little extras (like more sophisticated software to make better pirated versions).

Does he feel any guilt? Not a bit. “I look at what they charge in the stores, $24.99, and it makes me sick. My copies are among the cheaper ones,” he says, referring to competitors who charge up to $15 for a bootleg DVD. “There are people who go through the General Motors plant with hockey bags full of them.

“For a while I did black-market DVDs — but they're generally bad quality and customers got upset with them,” adds Gary, who purchased handheld versions from a woman in a Markham strip mall who had them shipped in containers from China. “Those tapes stunk real bad, too,” Gary says with a laugh. “That woman's been arrested four times.”

Gary says he has his standards. “I'd never download them off the Internet and make copies,” he says. “That leaves a record.”

Another Toronto resident says he buys pirated DVDs from his buddies who regularly tape movies at the Alliance Atlantis cinema in the Beaches neighbourhood. They go in with camcorders for the Saturday matinees. Like Gary, this guy says he feels no remorse for essentially buying a piece of stolen property, adding that, “Hollywood is filled with a bunch of fat cats.”

And the pace at which pirated copies of new theatrical releases are found for sale as DVDs or on the Internet is dizzying. In 2003, the pirate DVD of Pirates of the Caribbean did not appear until 65 to 75 days after theatrical release.

Last year, the first pirate DVD purchase was made 13 hours after Poseidon's first screening. The first pirate download was 42 hours after the movie made its big-screen debut.

In the past 12 months, Fox sales manager Bert Livingston says he has sent technology specialists, training personnel and the latest anti-piracy equipment to Canada to help theatres try to catch the so-called “cammers” (people who shoot films covertly in theatres). “We've tried everything. We were hoping to try to stop it. But it just did not happen,” says Livingston. “If we stop it in one theatre, they simply move to another theatre about five miles further out into the suburbs.”

An MPA analysis of counterfeit discs in 2005 revealed close to 75 per cent of all films illegally camcorded in Canada were recorded in theatres in and around Montreal, recently identified as the No. 1 city in the world for surreptitious camcording. The reason? Pirates can easily create both English- and French-language masters.

The RCMP's Zarins says there is a major investigation under way in Montreal now. “Our members are working closely with the CMPDA on this. We partner with the private sector as much as we can.”

A crackdown can't come too soon for Snyder, who says he's willing to take a short-term financial hit by holding back his pictures to wake up Canadian government officials and lawmakers to the severity of the problem.

“We'll give Cineplex a pass the first time we find someone camcording, or it hits the Internet,” says Snyder. “But the second time it happens, we will no longer be playing Fox pictures — or Fox Searchlight pictures — there for an indefinite period of time.

“We need our partners in exhibition to protect our films,” adds Snyder. “But if they won't — or can't — we won't put our movies at risk by putting them in their theatres.”

And a bottle of rum for my long link

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Carl Martin
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quote: Ron Keillor
his team pinpointed Canadian theatres — primarily in Montreal — as the source of illegal camcording of a steady stream of Fox blockbusters
oh, those bad, bad people!

quote: Ron Keillor
Cineplex Entertainment — in conjunction with the Canadian Motion Picture Distributors Association (CMPDA), the RCMP and other movie chains such as Empire and AMC — have been lobbying the federal government for years to make it a criminal offence to pirate films. But so far their efforts have fallen on deaf ears.
but wait! it's not actually a crime. gosh, that first excerpt sure made it sound like one!

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“If money is involved, organized crime is going to be involved,” says Andris Zarins, the RCMP's national intellectual property crime co-ordinator.
but only if prohibition is also involved.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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Surely the simple solution is to employ extra staff on opening weekends? You could get one person solely checking for suspicious customers at the sime time as checking up on sound and picture quality and customers up to no good in the back rows.

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quote:
“We're doing everything we can, but we have problems with the government not doing enough,” says Jacob. “We've caught people camcording in our theatres, but all we can do is tell them to leave, and they show up the next day again.
While I am not familiar with Canadian laws, If Someone could cause my business harm as described in this article, I would hope I could Ban the offender from ever entering my theatre(s) again.

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$20.00 for a DVD is silly. The studios could charge $3 or $4 a DVD, and still make a profit. But at $3 or $4, it would not be worth it for the pirates to make copies, and try to sell them. At that price more people would buy more DVDs, and the studios could end up making more money.

As long as there is lots of money involved, the studios will never stop the pirates. Just look at how successful we have been at stopping the flow of drugs, after all the time and money this country has put into it.

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Post a notice in the lobby before ticketing stating: "No recording; those caught will be held overnight in our dungeon." No laws required: patron agrees to this as a condition of purchasing a ticket. Print this also on the ticket stub. Make an on-screen trailer showing a man chained to the wall.

Government is NEVER the answer. Louis

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quote: Bruce Hansen
The studios could charge $3 or $4 a DVD, and still make a profit.
Maybe, if they sold directly to the consumers. But the studio has to sell the product to a distributor, which sells to a subdistributor, which sells to a wholesaler, which sells to the stores, which sell to the public. Presto, $20 for a DVD.

And, if the studios did decide to sell direct, they'd have to put in a whole infrastructure to do it. More executives, more payroll, warehouse space, shipping/packing equipment, etc etc etc., presto. $20 again.

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More ridiculous studio blather instead of solving the real issues. Really now, hidden cameras concealed in clothing, with sound picked up via the hearing impaired devices, in tens of thousands of auditoriums. You can NEVER stop the bootleg recording of movies. Not with Crap Code, not with "D-Cinema", not ever. Better laws, stiffer fines? Sure, whatever. If the studios think that the exhibitor should be staffing these mega-plexes with more than a couple roving 16 year old minimum-wagers, maybe they ought to take less of a percentage. [puke]

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I agree that it is difficult to stop people from bringing in camcorders, but it would make sense for Canada to have tougher laws to provide more serious penalties. I think this is a problem that has to be worked on at 'both ends' ie: at the government level and at the theaters.

Note to Louis: A friend of mine used to always say:
"What are the most terrifying words you can hear? 'I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you.'" [Big Grin]

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quote: Dave Bird
maybe they ought to take less of a percentage.
Maybe... but in my experience, people will complain no matter what you charge.

We still get people, though infrequently, who think we should be playing first-run double features for $5 a carload.

Everything we sell is under what any local indoor house charges, yet it's still too much for some.

I run a swap meet on Sunday, and there are shoppers who think I should let them in for free, rather than the $.50/single or $1 carload I charge now.

I think the people who download would do so if theatre admission or DVDs were free... too much trouble to get to the theatre, and gas is soooo expensive.

Comments about what Hollywood or their individual participants make is beside the point. Given the opportunity to debate, nobody will ever agree on what the other guy should be making. To some, if it's profit, it's bad.

If the marketplace feels a product is too expensive, the way to get the message across is by staying home and reading a book... not stealing the product under the rationale that it's ok for the thief to sell the (stolen) content, but the fat-cat studio should make nothing. Given published comments like that, I wouldn't blame the studios for pulling the plug for a while.

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I don't understand people who complain about DVD prices. As far as I'm concerned, $20 for a DVD and $29 for a (cheap, crappy) player is an incredible bargain. Consider that the early VHS and Betamax tapes sold for upwards of $80 each (in early 1980s dollars) and that the players were upwards of $500-1000; never mind that the picture quality was far worse and that the tapes were not as durable. Actually, I would even go so far as to argue that DVD prices should be higher, since cheap video copies serve to cheapen the whole "movie experience"--i.e. "why should I pay $20 for two movie tickets when I can buy the movie on DVD for $20?"

DVDs are a steal. It's the $18.99 CDs that are a rip-off, as the production cost of an album is far less than that of most movies and a popular CD will have a longer shelf-life and will sell more copies than most DVDs. How many DVDs sell several million copies?

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I never understood why law enforcement doesn't just walk down the streets of any major city to find the guys on the street selling these things so they can round them up and throw them in jail for five years and charge them with a $25,000 fine - I have to sit through a message telling me that they'll do that to ME if I make a copy of the movie I just purchased.

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Canada may very well need tougher laws on the books for this type of thing, we already have "tough" laws on guns and drugs, etc. The problem is, with a tiny population of 30 million so spread out, the enforcement is nearly impossible. There just is not the political will or resources to fight this. I suspect it's not alot different anywhere, I mean, who are you going to spend your time on, terrorists or 16 year olds with camcorders? My tax money spent to prosecute these kids (who don't have ANY assets to seize) is wasted. The organized crime rings behind it remain untouched.

Perhaps the theatres can negotiate a raise in their house allowance to actually put people in the auditoriums to try to monitor this. Hollywood might actually buy that. The problem is often these types of things turn into a cash grab and the extra staff doesn't get hired.

The threat of getting burned for allowing piracy in my own theatre is perhaps the only incentive to keep that 2K bulb for the 80-foot screen. Crappy image = crappy bootlegs! Hey, maybe THAT's why they're pushing D-Cinema! [Wink]

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quote: Mark J. Marshall
I never understood why law enforcement doesn't just walk down the streets of any major city to find the guys on the street selling these things so they can round them up and throw them in jail for five years and charge them with a $25,000 fine
Because the guys selling the DVDs on the street aren't the problem. You arrest one, two more will spring up...and the guy won't have the $25,000 fine anyway, so what's better? Let the taxpayers give him free room and board, or cut him loose with a suspended sentence?

The root problem is the "warehouses" where thousands of copies of pirate DVDs are printed up. Well, the REAL root problem is probably studio screeners, but that's another thread.

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Because the guys selling the DVDs on the streets aren't the problem.
Here in NYC, I've seen kids, spanish women selling the DVDs in Herald Square area of the city and asian women in the Chinatown area. In Jersey I've seen spanish men & women walking down the streets and going into fast food places and laundry mats selling bootleg DVDs.

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