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Mike Sellars
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From: Robertsdale, AL., USA
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Being in South Alabama as we are, we have gotten more than a few complaints from church groups about our pending release of "The Golden Compass". They range from stating that the author of the books the movie is based on is an atheist and the film is anti-Christian, to the point of the movie is that they kill God at the end, etc. [Roll Eyes]

Anyone else gotten grief for this film? We will show it, of course... but it may come with baggage.

Mike

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Steven J Hart
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A local Catholic priest has spoken to me about the film, volunteering to forward me all the information that he has received about it from his diocese. He would prefer not to see it played in our small community. I'm not scheduled to play this film on the break, so will wait and see what kind of box-office numbers it generates before deciding whether or not to play it.
Steve

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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quote: Mike Sellars
the author of the books the movie is based on is an atheist
Oh no!

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Mike Spaeth
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As I've explained to customers...

Muslims/Jews aren't allowed to consume pork.

So, when they order from Pizza Hut, they order Hamburger.

They don't refuse to go to Pizza Hut because they serve pork.

Likewise with the film.

When you come to the theatre, if you're offended, don't buy a ticket for The Golden Compass.

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Mike Blakesley
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We've been playing the trailer for several weeks and I have yet to hear anything except for "When is it coming?"

I'm Catholic, so I'm kind of surprised not to have heard anything. But I think it's more because most folks don't give a shit about this kind of controversy. Only a few noisemakers do. The general public at large couldn't care less. If they want to see the movie they will, if they don't, they won't.

By the way, it's the Catholic League, not the church itself, that is stirring up so much racket about this film.

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Chris Slycord
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quote:
to the point of the movie is that they kill God at the end, etc. [Roll Eyes]
Apparently that's in the book but New Line insisted it not be in the movie.

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Scott McGuire
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I remember reading somewhere that this movie would do well but it also said that it would do even better if the relgion card came into play. As some one in the forums said i am just a projectionist so i'm really not sure.I think it will do better if people make it a contrversial film.

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Frank Angel
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When will they ever learn: Controversy = Increased Ticket Sales. It's as immutable as Pi. It ALWAYS has the exact opposite effect of what they want. They keep doing the same thing and they keep expecting different results....just like crazy people.

Just once I would like to see these bishops or Legion of Decency or whoever, come out and promote a film that they actually DO like; tell their parishers to GO SEE a movie instead of only opening their yaps whenever they think they've been offended. You ask a theatre not to play this film, then how about you help boost his ticket sales to compensate and get people to go see the film he WILL be running in its stead. Hmmm....fat chance that.

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Mike Blakesley
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Now it's official - the Catholic Church is NOT against this film. The USCCB has given it a rating of A-II, which is basically equivalent to PG-13. (The review will show up on the www.usccb.org/movies website when the film is released.)

The USCCB review says the film is not blatantly "against" the church or religion, and that most of the anti- stuff from the book has been excised and/or would probably go over kids' heads. And they address the fear that the film will make kids want to read the books and/or interest them in atheism this way: The movie will provide a good platform for parents to -- here's a novel idea -- talk to their kids about such issues.

It's only the wackos in the Catholic League (not affiliated with the church) that are condemning the movie.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Sad, (and not meaning to swing this towards a religious/political discussion) that a leftist group had to create an issue like that - in casting judgement on something that they WANT the rest of the world to believe.

Course, there are a-plenty of leftist groups out there that prob feel the same way on how things should run in general - trying to expose the truth so those exposed issues can be used as tools to be used in their favor with what they believe is RIGHT.

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Blaine Young
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I did an inspection screening Friday in prep for the Saturday Sneak Peek. I didn't find it offensive or critical of any faith. I did find it somewhat confusing - I'm not familiar with the books, and they seemed to gloss over several points in the backstory to help me understand context. I understand some of that exposition may be overkill, but to simply build a world without any backstory and give brief snippets of "this is this" and "that is that" simply didn't help me much.

One thing that really bugged me is that they seem to have this great propulsion technology - fusion, fission or whatever, but still required hydrogen to provide lift. And were still using steam trains. Huh???

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Blaine Young
And were still using steam trains. Huh???
Well, that's just because steam enginges are automatically cool.

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Frank Angel
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So TOTALLY, MONUMENTALLY true, Mike!!

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Chad Souder
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Golden Compass will bomb and it won't benefit from the controversy. It's PG-13 rating will be the death of it. They just narrowed their audience big time. The religious will likely take and may even deserve some of the credit for its failure, but it is that rating that will be most responsible.

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Kurt Zupin
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Please explain how a PG-13 rating is going to kill this movie? An R rating would of killed this movie, but a PG-13 will only help it. This brings in the older kids/adults and parents still see it as being ok for their children.

This movie will do mega bucks.

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