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Mike Schindler
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From: Oak Park, IL, USA
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posted 11-19-2008 11:11 AM
I think the only way to make a financially successful Star Trek movie these days is to do something that appeals to a larger audience. But I don't think that that goal needs to (or will) conflict with making something the fans will appreciate too.
Reboots are all the rage these days. Whether it's Batman or Bond, or even the Hulk, starting fresh has been met with great success both financially and creatively.
With STAR TREK, we have possibly the best of both worlds (no pun intended). It's a reboot inside of the continuity which we've all known and (mostly) loved for the past 42 years. One of the writers, Roberto Orci, has said on numerous occasions that he is obsessed with continuity, and has a very thorough knowledge of Star Trek's canon. Because of this, my mind is at ease, no matter what I see in the trailer that conflicts with what I know about Star Trek.
And most of what does conflict is merely cosmetic. And let's face facts. As much as we'd all love to see the original bridge of the Enterprise, with all of it's buttons and dials and primary colors, it would take viewers so far out of the movie that it would be a disservice to the story.
What does seem true to the original series are the characters. And once we get past all of our nerdy hangups, like why Bones is on the ship, or why Scotty's uniform is red instead of yellow, that's all that really matters. Right?
I don't know if this thing will make any money. The trailer reaction that I saw was less than enthusiastic. Personally, I thought it was better than Christmas. But I really really hope the movie does well.
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Ken Lackner
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posted 11-19-2008 01:58 PM
Nerd Alert.
quote: Mike Schindler And most of what does conflict is merely cosmetic. And let's face facts. As much as we'd all love to see the original bridge of the Enterprise, with all of it's buttons and dials and primary colors, it would take viewers so far out of the movie that it would be a disservice to the story.
THANK YOU! I love Enterprise, and I hate when people complain about this. I mean, really. The show was made in 2003. It's not going to look like it was made in 1966, no matter how long before the 1966 show it takes place. Same goes for this movie.
quote: Mike Schindler One of the writers, Roberto Orci, has said on numerous occasions that he is obsessed with continuity, and has a very thorough knowledge of Star Trek's canon.
Then why is he portraying Kirk as the first commander of the Enterprise? That simply is not correct. Period. (Unless I am seriously misunderstanding what I see in the trailer and everything I have heard about the movie for the past two years.)
quote: Mike Schindler And once we get past all of our nerdy hangups...
We would not be Star Trek fans without our nerdy hangups.
quote: Mike Schindler like why Bones is on the ship, or why Scotty's uniform is red instead of yellow...
Scotty's uniform was red in The Original Series. So where's the hangup? Was he in a different department before he was in engineering? (I'm not a huge TOS nerd, so that may very well be the case and I never knew it.)
quote: Darryl Spicer Well if that's the case then they need to mention the fact that Captain Kirk was not the original Captain of the ship he commands. The original commander was Captain Pike.
Sorry, you lose. The correct answer is Captain Robert April.
/Nerd Alert.
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Darryl Spicer
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posted 11-19-2008 02:32 PM
quote: Ken Lackner Sorry, you lose. The correct answer is Captain Robert April.
The character's only appearance is in the Star Trek: The Animated Series episode "The Counter-Clock Incident", in which he is voiced by James Doohan and portrayed as the first captain of the USS Enterprise. However, the decision by Paramount Pictures, studio owners of the franchise, and series creator Gene Roddenberry to not consider the animated series to be part of the official Star Trek canon has led to debate as to whether April and his place as first captain, is actually a part of Star Trek continuity.
Technically I don't lose.
quote: Ken Lackner THANK YOU! I love Enterprise, and I hate when people complain about this. I mean, really. The show was made in 2003. It's not going to look like it was made in 1966, no matter how long before the 1966 show it takes place. Same goes for this movie.
They had one of the original design ships in an episode of Enterprise along with the Tholians creating their webs. In a Mirror Darkly I believe was the title of that episode. It was two parts and was in the final season.
quote: Ken Lackner Scotty's uniform was red in The Original Series. So where's the hangup? Was he in a different department before he was in engineering? (I'm not a huge TOS nerd, so that may very well be the case and I never knew it.)
He was also the head of security on the ship. You always new that if an unfamilure character had a red shirt on he was doomed to die. I will point out that Scotty died in the original series. The episode was the Changeling, where an alien probe was brought abord the ship and Scotty touched the probes screens and it zapped him. Later the probe revived him back from the dead. So Scotty was not imune to the red shirt doomed issue.
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