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Author Topic: What is closest number of cinemas you have to one another? Tom Petrov Five Guys Lover Posts: 1121 From: El Paso, TX Registered: Jan 2003 posted 12-26-2010 07:24 PM                    Ok, I live in a pretty busy area but it is still developing. Not a giant area like Toronto or anything. I live close to the highway and it appear we have an extreme number of cinema all close one another. Within about 20km we have. SilverCity 10 AMC 24 Encore 5 SilverCity 12 Encore 6 SilverCity 14 There are 13 Real D cinemas, one IMAX (not open to public), One Ultra AVX. A total of 71 screens all along QEW in my area all within 20km. Going the other from the first cinema, it is about 35 km to the next cinema. There used to be the Empire 6 that was in there as well, but that closed.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-26-2010 08:09 PM                        I don't know the current status of most of these, but when I was living in Virgina in the late 1990s, we had the following within about a fifteen mile radius, all open for a short period (circa 1997/1998): AMC Patrick Henry Mall 7 (now closed) AMC Hampton Mall 4 (now closed) Regal Kiln Creek 20 (expanded from 14) NEI Cinemas Hampton (3-plex discount house, now closed) AMC Hampton Towne Center 24 Regal Riverdale Plaza 12 Carmike Williamsburg Crossing 7 (now closed) Carmike Williamsburg Montecello 4 (the dumpiest theatre I have ever seen; now mercifully closed) Williamsburg Theatre (single art-house; I worked there) I thought that this area was way over-screened at the time, especially considering that most of these were total dumps.  |  IP: Logged Kenneth Wuepper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1026 From: Saginaw, MI, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-26-2010 09:00 PM                     Carmike Fashion Square Cinema 10 screens all digital Goodrich Saginaw 12 12 screens less than 1/4 mile apart in the Township Court Street Theatre Single screen 35mm film second run in the City of Saginaw and 4 miles from the 22 first run screens Temple Theatre single screen 16mm, 35mm and 70mm rep and special films. 4 miles from the 22 screens and 3 miles from the Court Street Theatre  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 12-27-2010 02:54 AM                        in 2001, i had the following in about a 1 mile radius: california theatre (3 screens, where i work) shattuck cinemas (10 screens, 2 added around 2000) ua theater (7? screens. i don't go there) act 1&2 (2 screens, now closed) uc theatre (1 screen, now closed) fine arts (1 screen, now closed) pacific film archive (1 screen) since then, i've had to travel into san francisco much more frequently for my fix.  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 12-30-2010 11:37 PM                     Within a four-block radius in Glendale CA is the one screen Alex, the ten screen Mann Exchange, the four screen Mann Marketplace and the eighteen screen Pacific Americana at Brand. Then, of course, in Ontario CA, there is a 30 screen AMC in the Ontario Mills mall, and a 24 screen Edwards in the parking lot of the mall.  |  IP: Logged Tom Petrov Five Guys Lover Posts: 1121 From: El Paso, TX Registered: Jan 2003 posted 12-31-2010 12:08 AM                    quote: Edward Havens Then, of course, in Ontario CA, there is a 30 screen AMC in the Ontario Mills mall, and a 24 screen Edwards in the parking lot of the mall. What? Any pics  |  IP: Logged John Joseph Fink Film Handler Posts: 60 From: West Hartford, CT Registered: Feb 2006 posted 12-31-2010 10:32 AM                        In New Jersey we once had, all within 4 miles (and for most of this they were all unable to play day and date with each other): -Loews Plaza 8 - Secaucus, NJ (replaced by Kerasotes Showplace 14) -Loews Meadows 6 - Secaucus, NJ (replaced by Kerasotes Showplace 14) -Regal Bergen Plaza 13 - North Bergen, NJ (after a year it became a discount house, closed and later was a hybrid Hollywood/Art House/Discount house) -Regal Columbia Park 12 - North Bergen, NJ (the only of the bunch still open - now permitted to play day and date with Showplace after a discount stint as Interstate and Starplex's only North East location - it shows Bollywood and first run Hollywood films as Phoenix Theaters / Big Cinemas). =39 screens in four miles The problem for Bergen Plaza is it was an industrial neighborhood in a parking garage under a supermarket, strange and slightly scary location - whereas both Secaucus theaters were in vibrant shopping areas with plenty of restaurants near by.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 퍼항시, 경상푹도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 12-31-2010 11:27 AM                     quote: Tom Petrov What? Any pics  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 12-31-2010 12:56 PM                     My apologies... the Edwards is a 22-plex, not a 24. Haven't been there since Lost in Space in 1998.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 퍼항시, 경상푹도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 12-31-2010 02:05 PM                     Sounds like it's more a 23-plex since it's got the IMAX screen. And perhaps it was a 24-plex originally before they put in the IMAX part? That could explain your thinking it was. I wouldn't know.  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 01-01-2011 02:14 PM                     Nah, it was always a 22 including the IMAX, which was there opening day.  |  IP: Logged Michael Coate Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1904 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Feb 2001 posted 01-01-2011 10:19 PM                     quote: Edward Havens Then, of course, in Ontario CA, there is a 30 screen AMC in the Ontario Mills mall, and a [22] screen Edwards in the parking lot of the mall. Not to mention, in addition to those 50+ screens, within a fairly short distance can be found another 26 screens (Mountain Village 14 and Victoria Gardens 12). Totally over-screened area. Another over-screened region in Southern California, in my opinion, is Murrieta/Temecula. When I lived there in the late-1990s/early-2000s, there was the following all within a couple miles of one another: The Movie Experience 17 Temecula 15 Tower Plaza 10 Temeku 7 That's 49 screens for an area covering only a few miles and a population of about 100,000. (The Temeku seven-screener started life as first-run but at some point switched to second-run.) Plus, built during the '80s, there also was the Rancho California 10 and Winchester Square 3. Both of these were closed by the time I arrived, if I remember correctly, but there may have been some operational overlap with some of the ones cited above. (Rancho California 10 converted into a gym, and the Winchester Square operated as an auto parts store.) What are your thoughts on how many screens are needed for a region/population range? At what point does an area become over-screened? And, which is more relevant: the number of screens in a complex, or the cumulative screens in a region?  |  IP: Logged Jonathan M. Crist Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 531 From: Hershey, PA, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 01-01-2011 10:42 PM                     The old formula (up through the end of the 1970's when most theatres were still single screens/twins/triplexes) was one screen for every 10,000 people within a given geographic area (if you wanted to make a decent profit). When multiplexes evolved in the 80's and 90's that formula became one screen for every 5,000 people within a given geographic area(because each auditorium was smaller in terms of seat count). In each of the above formulas the geographic area would vary a bit but generally it is based on the premise that no one is going to travel more than 20 to 30 miles one way to see a movie. (so in figuring out an area you need to calculate a radius of 20 to 30 miles of a given location.) IMHO it the total number of screens in an given geographical area based on the population within that area which is the most important. However there is some leeway in the one screen per 5,000 population drawing area as some areas are just bigger moviegoing areas than others. It also seems that when an area has more smaller complexes (e.g. 8 or less screens per venue) the public ends up with LESS choice in films as each of these smaller complexes all play the same half dozen popular titles.  |  IP: Logged Tom Petrov Five Guys Lover Posts: 1121 From: El Paso, TX Registered: Jan 2003 posted 01-02-2011 06:10 AM                    quote: Jonathan M. Crist It also seems that when an area has more smaller complexes (e.g. 8 or less screens per venue) the public ends up with LESS choice in films as each of these smaller complexes all play the same half dozen popular titles. I think more complexes is the problem. The smaller complexes will never do as well. Also the larger theatre will be preceived as better based just on the size alone.  |  IP: Logged Christopher Crouch Expert Film Handler Posts: 128 From: Holywood, ca, usa Registered: May 2006 posted 01-02-2011 06:15 AM                  Irvine/Tustin, Ca. Within a five mile radius: Edwards Spectrum 21 Edwards Westpark 8 Edwards Marketplace Stadium 10 Edwards Marketplace 6 Edwards University 6 AMC District 14 Starplex Woodbridge 5 If you were to expand the range to twenty miles, the number of theatres/screens would become really freaky. However, the population density and movie going habits of Orange County really don't result in a notable over-screening issue.  |  IP: Logged

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