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Frank Cox
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Ringing Cell Phone stops concert

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!@#&^%$!!!!!! (Cellphone halts Mahler’s Ninth mid-movement)
Posted on January 10, 2012 by thousandfoldecho

For those who say that the concert hall needs to loosen up, who want tweet-seats and more technology, be careful what you wish for.

Until today I’ve never been to a concert where a cellphone stopped the orchestra in the middle of a piece, but now I can check that awful milestone off the list. I’ll try to record it as accurately as I can, with my still-jangling nerves.

It was in the fourth movement. (Funny how these disturbances never happen in fortissimo passages.) After the last climax, as the movement begins to wind down, toward that sublime last page of the score where music and silence are almost indistinguishable. In other words, just about the worst possible moment. (After a quick check of my Dover score, I think it was about 13 bars before the last Adagissimo.) [UPDATE: commenters have pointed out that the phone was ringing in louder passages earlier in the movement.]

When we reached that passage, as Alan Gilbert turned to the first violins and the sound grew ever more hushed and veiled, the unmistakable chimes of the iPhone Marimba ringtone resounded loud and clear throughout Avery Fisher Hall. (Checked on my iPhone afterward to confirm which one it was.) And it kept on ringing, and ringing. Gilbert kept on conducting for a few bars, but unbelievably, the sound kept on going. (Doesn’t this guy have voicemail?)

Of all places, the offender was sitting in the very front row, center section, on the aisle (stage right). In other words, right in front of the concertmaster.

Finally, Gilbert dropped his hands and stopped the orchestra, turned to the offender, and looked at him. To everyone’s disbelief, the sound just kept on going, and going. Someone shouted, “Thousand dollar fine.”

Gilbert said something like, “Are you finished?” The guy didn’t move a muscle. Gilbert: “Fine. We’ll wait.” And he turned to the podium and lay down his baton.

As the marimba kept on clanging, someone shouted, “Kick him out!” Another echoed. Some started to clap. But then others shushed the hall down, preventing pandemonium from erupting.

Finally, it stopped. Gilbert: “Did you turn it off?” The guy nodded. Gilbert: “It won’t go off again?” Another nod. Gilbert turned to the audience, and said, “Ordinarily in disturbances like these, it’s better not to stop, since stopping is worse than the disturbance. But this was so egregious, that . . .” (I lost his words here), and the audience burst into boisterous applause.

Gilbert turned to the orchestra, said “Number 118,” and started up again, at the point where the trombones enter fortissimo for the last big climax. I wish I could say you could have heard a pin drop from then on, but there were a few coughers; this is New York, after all. Still, there was a palpable sense of tension from orchestra and audience, as Mahler’s Ninth finally found its way home.

–Michael


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Stephen Furley
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They should have built into all cell phones the ability to receive some sort of signal which would switch them into silent mode, without the ability to override this feature. Places which require 'phones would then just need to install a device to transmit this signal.

Given the short life of these things, I've just had to replace mine after just a couple of weeks over four years due to failed keypad, they could even introduce this on new 'phones now, and the problem would be largely fixed within a few years.

I'd also like them to be unable to play music over the speaker; it drives me round the bend when there are half a dozen of them all doing it on the bus going to work in the morning.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Hitting the time machine: Wonder what would Toscanini, Reiner, HvK, "Kna", Beecham, Bernstein and the other great conductors would do if some clown's cell took off during their performances?

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Frank Cox
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I wish that cell phone jammers were legal to use. I found out that some years ago the Canadian government had hearings into whether jammers should be made legal for theatres, restaurants, concert halls, etc. Apparently nobody at all submitted anything in favour of it, so the idea was dropped.

I find it difficult to believe that they received zero submissions in-favour, unless it was one of those kinds of hearings that's scheduled for 9pm on Sunday night by the leopard cage in the park, which is a possibility.

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Joe Redifer
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The guilty individual was beaten down to a bloody pulp in the parking lot by the mob, correct?

Also, this should probably be in Yak.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Mote,

Of the great conductors of the past you had mentioned, Arturo Toscanini (NBC Symphony) and Fritz Reiner (Chicago Symphony) would have gone into a flying rage if they were alive today and someone's cel phone had gone of during one of their concerts.

-Claude

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Brad Miller
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Has anyone seen the episode "The Black Swan" from Curb Your Enthusiasm? It fits so well for this thread and is hilarious.

(There are videos all over the internet, sort of like this one.)

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Richard Hamilton
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quote: Frank Cox
I wish that cell phone jammers were legal to use
My cousin has owned a few restaurants and talked to me about putting in a jammer. He had pay phones by the entrance and figured he could make more money (I think he split the income 50/50 with the phone company). This was before cell phones and texting were free and some people would actually use pay phones.

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Frank Cox
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When I first opened my theatre I asked SaskTel about getting a pay phone in my lobby. They told me that I would have to pay them over $100/month, and they would keep all of the quarters too.

Never did get a pay phone in my lobby....

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Frank Angel
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The entertainment industry should muster up some testosterone and put pressure on the antiquated FCC and demand that blocking cell phone reception in the theatres, concert halls and restaurants be allowed or even licensed (tell them they can license it is like giving them Viagra) as it is in all of Europe. Only requirement would be that there has to be a locatioin on the premises where patrons can get signal....like in the lobby. That should satisfy all their concerns about people not being able to use the phone in an emergency.

But you say, what about if someone needs to get to the patron or customer in an emergency? Well, what did they do before there were cell phones? There was such a time. If people know they can't get cell service and they are in circumstances where life and death hang in the balance, like a doctor who has a critical patient that no one else is capable of dealing with, then maybe the good doctor shouldn't be out watching a movie in the first place. I don't see any valid reason why ANYONE can't be out of reach for two hours. The FCC should got off their bureaucratic asses and legalize it and go back to doing what they do best, making sure we are protected from the scourge hearing "dirty" words.

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Randy Stankey
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There should be a way to make cell phones ring and not stop until they are turned off.

Then you just install the transmitter at the entrance to the theater and wait for people to walk in. Their phones will start ringing and they'll have to shut them off to get them to stop.

The show doesn't start until the very last phone has stopped.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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the fact that the douche.. er offender, did NOTHING to silence the phone is the most maddening part of the story - I had this happen to me once, I just completely forgot to turn off my phone (oops!), I at least though quickly extracted my phone from my pocket and turned it off. I'm surprised the other patrons after the show didn't have mean comments and looks towards that individual.

at least it wasn't what happened during a recent screening of 'Melancholia' the other night. This guy got up near the end of the movie, decided to have a random out of the blue terse conversation with the nearest person to him, while standing up blocking some others view of the screen. Then some older woman who couldn't see the screen decided to vocally express her opinion on the matter by saying 'Sit the f$%k down' - whoah, there's no reason for THAT language! maybe Von Trier's impending doom got some folks to just unravel and whig out.

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Frank Angel
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The explanation that I just heard was that the poor guy had just purchased a smart phone and evidently he wasn't familiar with the thing and didn't know how to turn it off! It kept ringing while he did just that -- pushed every button to no avail. You gotta feel for him. In NYC, he is luckly he didn't get pummled. Then again, the humiliation was probably worse.

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Joe Redifer
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Doesn't pushing ANY button on the iPhone make the ringing stop?

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quote: Randy Stankey
There should be a way to make cell phones ring and not stop until they are turned off.

Then you just install the transmitter at the entrance to the theater and wait for people to walk in. Their phones will start ringing and they'll have to shut them off to get them to stop.

If only there was a way to do that. The funny part would be the idiots who leave it on vibrate...so they won't miss that call. Their batteries would die pretty quick. [Smile]

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