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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man
Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-03-2001 11:53 AM
Thanks, Rachel. The error "cannot find load=load=load=load=load or one of its components, blah, blah, blah" is the actual message. it started out with one load = load, then it got longer. Last time I booted, it had 6 load = load. Besides, I could not get the modem drivers loaded even when the drivers were Windows 2000 compatible, and I could not get the network up and running with compatible drivers. I temporarily fixed the problem. I used the Maxi-Blast software, reformated the drive, and re-installed Windows 98. I am going to build another junk computer and play around with Windows 2000. It is something I have to become familiar with. If that pops up again, your suggestion will be the first thing I will look at. I can see the hand writing on the wall. It's eventually going to happen in my radio station. But, I am always open for suggestions with Windows 2000. If anyone has had weird problems, I'm all ears... 
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Scott Norwood
Film God
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-03-2001 02:45 PM
I played with one of the early versions back in February of this year. My general impression with Win2k was that it's OK, but is not a substantial improvement over WinNT, unless you have an all-Microsoft network and don't plan to ever have alternate platforms on the same network. The Active Directory stuff is a nice idea, but it's fairly useless unless you're willing to commit your entire network to NT (since it is essentially useless if you have any Unix, Novell, OS/2, Macs, etc. on the same network).
In short, for desktop use, I didn't see much benefit to Win2k over NT4, except for laptops which benefit from the improved hardware support. NT4 doesn't support USB, but I happen to think that USB is a pretty crappy idea in the first place, so there's no great loss. I also felt at the time that it was too early to move to a brand-new OS which was then relatively untested.
NT4 _can_ be made to be pretty stable, if you strip out all the junk and don't install MSIE or active desktop or anything else which creates hundreds of registry keys and is basically impossible to uninstall. I've had NT servers with uptimes over 100 days. (I've also had Unix machines with uptimes of 250+ days). Not that I would recommend using NT as a server, but there are some applications which require it.
As usual, backups are super-important, not just because of OS issues, but also for insurance against flaky hardware, fire, flood, etc.
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man
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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 01-03-2001 07:08 PM
Scott and Randy: I have had good luck with USB hardware under Windows 98SE Full Version. It seems to be a very stable platform when all the updates are installed, as long as I don't use MSIE 5.5. Scott, If I understand you correctly, I can expect USB fail under Windows 2000. I have Peer-to-Peer networking at home, with as many as 7 computers on the hub. Is Windows 2000 going to have problems with that also? All programs loaded fine under Windows 2000, except the Modem drivers and the network card. All my machines on network at home (where I want to play with 2000) have either Win 95, 98, 3.11, and Windows Millennium. I made an appointment with a computer goon so I can observe the installation of 2000. It'll cost me a couple of bucks, but if I can learn something, it is money well invested. To all - thanks for the input. Very much appreciated. If the computer goon points out some things I was doing wrong, I'll pass them along to all of you via this forum so you may have an easier time trying to get that 2000 running.
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Scott Norwood
Film God
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-04-2001 09:54 AM
First, Win2k is what really would have been WinNT 5.0 if the marketing dweebs hadn't gotten involved. It's the same kernel (with bugfixes and new bugs added, of course) and is fully 32-bit-capable and memory protected. There's no relationship to DOS at all (unlike Win9x, which is based entirely on DOS). It uses NT-style device drivers and does support USB.
Second, as to why I think USB was a bad idea: it's just a new I/O port design which does little more than duplicate existing (and better) technologies. For example, SCSI already exists and is perfectly useful for scanners, disks, etc. It's expensive, but good. Ethernet connectivity is best added with a PCI card. Parallel and network connectivity is best for printers (and doesn't have the CPU overhead that USB does). And so forth, and so on.
This is not to say that I am against new technology, but I do happen to have the opinion that anything new should at least be significantly better than whatever preceded it. USB isn't. Firewire is, but was considered to be "too expensive" for the masses. Besides, only two OS's really support USB: Win2k and Win98. Everything else (DOS, Win95, OS/2, Linux/BSD/Solaris, etc.) don't have much if any USB support yet they support existing interfaces (parallel, serial, scsi, ethernet) just fine.
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