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Paul G. Thompson
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posted 03-27-2001 09:58 PM

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Brad Miller
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posted 03-27-2001 09:59 PM

Paul, please read the FAQ about long URL address links.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 03-28-2001 04:09 AM

No problem. The next update of ripping software will be able to bypass this easily. If that doesn't work, the new firmware updates surely will. It is funny when corporations think that they are smarter and can defeat the consumer.

There is ALWAYS a way.

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Brad Miller
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posted 03-28-2001 04:38 AM

In the meantime the "easy" way around this is of course just to play the disc off of a regular cd player and into the analog inputs of a good sound card. While sure this isn't a "digital" transfer, it would certainly be damn close and I'll bet it will be how most people get around it for the time being.

Joe is right. There is ALWAYS a way...and people WILL find it.

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 03-28-2001 12:46 PM

Even better, just use the two-pin digital audio out from a CD-ROM drive and connect it to the SPDIF in on a sound card (or even a co-axial/optical digital out from an external audio CD player). That will just feed you the digital audio stream whilst totally ignoring the table of contents.

But if you just clone-copy a CD (e.g. by selecting the 'preserve original file ordering' option in Easy CD Creator) it will copy the whole lot, TOC errors and all. You wouldn't be able to rip individual tracks, but I can't see any way this would prevent you from copying the entire disc.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 03-28-2001 04:20 PM

Brad and Leo are right are right... it is already not Napster proof. You only need one person to make an MP3 before that MP3 spreads itself around the net. Of course, when you make an MP3 it is not important to have an original digital rip, since the compression of MP3 will destroy that anyway, even at 320 kbps. But the CD can be duped, even digitally.

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 03-28-2001 05:51 PM

Frankly, the cat is already out of the bag on this one and has been ever since domestic CD audio players included a digital out facility, and CD writing technology became cheap and widespred (blank CD-Rs are now significantly cheaper than a good quality cassette).

I suppose you could come up with an encryption system that would make it very difficult to rip audio tracks from a digital output stream. But that would depend on all the CD player manufacturers agreeing to implement it. As with SCMS and the DVD region system, they claim to play by the rules but in reality they deliberately make it very easy to get round them in order to make their equipment more attractive to consumers.

However, even that would not prevent whole CD copying. However cleverly you encrypt the audio data and frig about with the layout on a CD, if domestic CD players are designed to be able to read it, then you'll be able to make a playable copy by simply copying the entire contents of the source CD byte for byte.

I think the record industry are probably over-reacting. They said home taping would kill off LP sales but it didn't. Now they're saying that Napster and home CD recorders will kill off pre-recorded CD sales. If anything it could well do the reverse - people who download MP3 files they like the sound of might well be tempted to then go and buy an album.

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