All the programs I use want to make track 1 the data track for some retarded reason, but I want it so that if someone puts the CD in an audio system, they don't have to skip track one to hear the audio. Track one should pop up automatically and say "Yo homie dis be a data CD and not a audio CD biotch! Git yo ass to a computer and put dis disc into a computer yo to get da filez peace out word!"

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These work by writing up to 98 audio (red book) tracks in the first session then a single data track in the second session.

Since audio cd players are only able to read the first session they will not try to play the data track at all. CD-ROM drives on the other hand can "see" both sessions (unless they are really, really old - like single speed and early 2x), and access both the audio and the data portions.

Steven Gorsky

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i've been doing this for years. it's quite simple.

you need a copy of adaptec jam (or astarte CD-DA which is what it was originally called before adaptec bought it) Anyways, fire up Jam and cue up your audio track(s) in it. Now, when you hit the record button, be sure to tell it to close session, not close disc. When the disc is finished, you will have a completly normal playable audio cd. Now, fire up Toast and set up your data area. put this cd back in the burner (if it isn't already there) and hit burn. That will create a second table of contents outside the end of the audio session and burn the data there.

Like i said, this is the way i have done it on a mac for a long time now. However, i believe you can do this all in Toast. burn audio first choosing a session only then burn the data in a seperate session.

That is excellent information, thanks.

Scott... Around 1989 there was a videogame system called the PC Engine/TurboGrafx 16 that used CD-ROMs to store the game data. The track layout was like this:
|-AUDIO-|-DATA-|-AUDIO-|-AUDIO-|-AUDIO,etc-|-DATA-|
They were far ahead of what typical burn software can do now even back then! And yes, the audio was all playable in any standard CD player. Clone CD can copy these games, but until programs like Clone CD came out, it was impossible to copy PC Engine CDs and actually get them to function properly.

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Actually I do have Nero (PC Version). I do like it. I don't see any explicit way to make it so the data track is last, though. The best way is to do multisession discs like indicated above. That works on Nero and Toast.