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Jerry Chase
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 - posted 11-14-2001 09:36 AM      Profile for Jerry Chase   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I was just musing about all the theatres that will have multiple screens of Potter and quickly drain the audience, leaving empty auditoriums. I then thought about the people willing to pay money just to see a Star Wars preview.

I think it could be a neat customer service to have an auditorium dedicated to nothing but previews. I know some theatres run previews in the lobby, but the customers have to stand and there is a lot of distraction.

As long as customers in the auditorium are always notified that their feature is about to start, (use a slide projector or laser titler to overprint the information on the bottom of the screen and let the doorman have a microphone for announcements) such an entertaining place to sit could be popular.

At first glance, the idea of losing the income from an auditorium might be frightening, but it also has merits.

1. It increases the holding area / lobby space tremendously. By having customers arriving early go into a preview auditorium rather than stand in the lobby, it clears the lobby.

2. It increases interest in upcoming films. Previews are our best advertisements. Film companies are desperate to have their previews shown.

3. It has the potential for added concession sales. Since previews are free, and no admission is charged, some people might begin to make a habit of coming to the theatre just to keep up with what is showing at the movies. That means the potential sale of a soda and popcorn.

4. Community relations. If the theatre is in a mall, this could be a place for people to come in and sit down for a while to relax. If advertised, it could expose non-theatregoers to the idea of coming to a theatre.

5. General entertainment value. The addition of some ancient previews, short subjects, or a cartoon could make this a fun evening or afternoon by itself. A minimal cover charge of a dime or a quarter could be used to offset the cost of renting the cartoons or shorts. Alternately, the money could be dedicated to community charities.

6. Encouraging ticket sales by having an entertaining time-waster always available. Many people think "Gee, I want to see that movie, but I don't want to have to schedule my time around it." By allowing them to come to the theatre at any time and be certain of being entertained until their show started, you can encourage casual sales. I have seen thousands and thousands of people walk up to box offices, notice what time a feature is playing, look at their watches, and turn away. Some come back, but many don't. A box office sign saying "Come-in now! Free previews and entertainment continuously available!" could grab those customers.

Making the theatre more accessable and available for casual entertainment is the name of the game.


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John Pytlak
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Jerry Chase said: "I think it could be a neat customer service to have an auditorium dedicated to nothing but previews."

That's a idea! The only problems would be policing those who use the preview auditorium as a staging area for theatre hopping, or get in the theatre to see the free previews and hang around to loiter and cause problems.


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Jesse Skeen
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This sounds like a good idea, but sounds expensive. I've put together close to 3 hours of nothing but trailers on a platter and watched them though, and when it was over I STILL wanted more!
There was a magazine called Total Movie that included a DVD with several current theatrical trailers; they went out of business but were bought by a different company and making a slow comeback. I thought this was a good way for people to see current trailers without having to go to a theater, unfortunately the video masters used on the discs were poor quality and didn't have the discrete digital sound tracks (I love how they usually keep the music out of the center channel).

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Ken Lackner
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I love the idea, but it sounds like it's better on paper than it would be in practice. Seems too impractical. There is no way we could put our door stand past any of our theatres. All theatres, including this preview theatre, would have to be past the door. So we would need another usher to check the tickets when people come out of the preview theatre to make sure they go the the correct auditorium. All theatres I've been to are like that. Now to design a building with one auditorium outside the doorstand and the rest inside, that would be interesting.

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John Walsh
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A few places have done this. We had a VCR running in our lobbies, playing nothing but trailers, The company that did it died. I don't think a theater could afford to give up a whole screen for it, though.

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Evans A Criswell
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Another problem I see with the trailers idea is that the material would need to be changed often, since people would quickly recognize the same sequence of material on a return visit and not come back for a while. Keeping the long sequence of short material up to date would probably be quite a job. Think of how many joins there would be, and how many trailers it would take. Would a theatre have enough copies of trailers of new movies to put the trailers on their new movies plus be able to put them on this long collection?

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Steven Pickles
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quote:
Would a theatre have enough copies of trailers of new movies to put the trailers on their new movies plus be able to put them on this long collection?

All that you would need to do is call the film companies and explain what you are doing and in a few days you will be up to your ears in trailers. At least, I would think so.

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Ken Lackner
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Well, Regal theaters (ones built by Regal, not ones they've taken over) have rear projection screens in their lobbies. Behind them are old Century projectors and Strong coninuous loop platters. Now, we all know what a pain these platters can be, so most theatres just used them as regular platters and rethreaded every time the show dropped. But my point is that these theatres ran about half and hour to an hour of trailers this way. Policy was to remove trailers when the film was released. So obviously they found time to edit the program at least once a week, and were able to obtain enough trailers. Neither of those would be a problem. My only problem still is finding a way to deal with the ticket-taking situation since all auditoriums are inside the door stand.

Unfortunately, the projectors I speak of are no longer in use. These screens now run with a VHS supplied by Cinema Concepts. The projectors and platters are all still in the booths, just sitting there. At least the ones I know of. In fact, my theatre was built after they started using VCR's, so it never even got a projector. Kinda takes the fun out of it.

As far as obtaining enough trailers, I would say that probably half the trailers at all the theatres I've worked at never made it on screen. We always have plenty extra, and if we do need more, I'm sure Steven is right.

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Scott Norwood
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I liked the Regal arrangment, although I haven't been to a Regal theatre since they switched to videotape for the lobby trailers.

Some GCC theatres have something called "Theatre Lobby Network," which is apparently a DVD-R with trailers on it which is shipped to the theatres once a month. I guess it's supposed to work in a similar way as Movie Tunes (which is done by a different company).

Personally, I think that showing trailers on TV sets in the lobby is kind of tacky (after all, people came to the theatre because they _didn't_ want to stay home and watch TV), but no one asked me. Maybe a smallish 20-50-seat "screening room"-type of arrangement off to one side in the lobby where trailers/shorts/etc. on film could be shown would be a good idea. Using an entire theatre (200+ seats) just to show trailers seems like a waste, but a smaller purpose-built arrangement would be neat.

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Steven Pickles
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Before returning to school in Gainesville, the Regal Cinemas in Royal Palm Beach still had the "rear screen" lobby projector (Century with endless loop platter). We would rethread every 45 to 60 minutes during busier theatre times (not during breaks, for example). It was a pain in the neck but it looked great and kept patrons busy while they were standing in the lobby area. As of August we did not have a VCR system but its been a few months so they may have one now. In Gainesville we have neither system for lobby trailers--our lobby is much too small.

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Ken Lackner
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Steven,

Are you at a Regal theatre now? If it does not have some sort of lobby screen, chances are it was not built by regal.

Actually, there was one theatre I saw this summer in Knoxville that still did use the projector. But I think most have had VCR's installed.

Yes, I agree that I small house built specifically for trailers and other similar entertainment, with an entrance in the lobby would be ideal.

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Steven Pickles
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Ken,

Yep.. still with Regal. It isn't a Regal built theatre (or even a Cobb-esque style from when Regal bought them out). I believe the original owners were Litchfield Cinemas and Regal gutted the place and built stadium seating and added four more auditoriums.

What I believe would ideal for trailers would be to have a closed off area that is easy to access and easy for people to move into and out of. I'm thinking like a museum (or anywhere) that shows a film on TV but doesn't want to disturb any of the other exhibits or attractions. Build it into the lobby area and project the trailers onto a screen from there. It doesn't need to seat that many people and can still have a "theatre" likeness to it thus accomplishing the task it would be designed to do.

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Ken Lackner
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I agree with steve. Having the entrance in the lobby like that would elimanate my above mentioned problem of the door stand. The lobby is accessable to anyone, and so would this area. Something to think about when designing new theatres.

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Jesse Skeen
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If the theater was in a mall they could put the entrance to the 'preview theater' inside the mall, maybe near a food area or something. The only problem would be keeping vagrants out. (While 35mm Dolby Digital would be perfect, I have a feeling they'd settle for VHS- ugh!)

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John Schulien
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One of the rides at, I believe, Disney MGM studios theme park in Orlando, has a waiting line that snakes through a theatre showing non-stop old trailers. It's a fun way to kill the time.

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