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Josh Jones
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 - posted 01-17-2002 11:06 PM      Profile for Josh Jones   Author's Homepage   Email Josh Jones   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I have been looking at careers lately as I only have one year of high school left, I have to decide eventually. right now the flavors are a powerline worker(lineman) or a film preservationist. as far as the film preservation goes, what type of schooling is required and what courses are recommended? I realize there are different branches, but does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should look into?

I would guess Mr. Pytlak could point me in the right direction

Josh


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Joe Beres
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Josh, I figured you were young, but not even out of high school? Wow, your level of knowledge is unbelieveable for someone that hasn't even been of working age for more than a few years.

Anyway, back to your topic. As you said, the link master will most likely chime in with many excellent links and wise advice, far superceding anything I can tell you, but here are a few bits and pieces I have picked up.

Indeed you can make a living in film preservation, and there are probably a few ways to go about it. One option would be to go to library school for starters. One of the archivists I know went that route and studied celluloid preservation quite extensively. I think the American Film Institute has a presevation studies program, but I can't seem to find anything on it. If you go to school at UCLA, you can volunteer at their archives, and they also have a graduate program in motion picture archiving. Here is their website: http://www.cinema.ucla.edu/5_Education/educationFR.html

I am at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and there is a great film studies program here as well as a rather large film archive. A BA in Communication Arts (The Major that has the film studies incorporated into it) with an emphasis on film history, and volunteer or workstudy time in the archive would give you a great foundation for applying for a graduate degree at a place like ucla. There is also a great film studies program at Iowa, and if you want to stay in the midwest, Madison and Iowa would be the best options.

Here is another valuable link to a Library of Congress page with links that may be of some assistance: http://www.loc.gov/film/schools.html .

So, most likely, you would have a good amount of school in your future. If you aren't opposed to that, then I would recommend looking into the different programs. Judging from your posts here, you seem to have a great drive to educate yourself, so perhaps the paths I have mentioned don't seem too daunting. There might be other paths as well. I'm sure Leo Enticknap can tell you how he got into archival work. I hope this long and convoluted message makes sense and provides some worthwhile info. Good luck to you.

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John Walsh
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Josh, why don't you put a posting on the rec.arts.movie.tech newsgroup. Bob Harris (the guy that restored Spartacus, Vertigo, My Fair Lady, several other titles) ocasionally reads and posts there. He could give you some good ideas. Sometimes if he is really busy, he might not respond for a while, but he is a great guy and if he sees your question I'm sure he will make several good suggestions.

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Paul G. Thompson
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Josh, whatever profession you choose, I know you will do well.

Continue to improve your knowledge base and pursue your dreams, and keep asking questions. If someone cannot or will not answer your questions, find someone who will.

In due time, you will be among the the best in the profession you choose. There is no question about it.

Paul

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John Pytlak
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In Rochester, NY, the International Museum of Photography at the George Eastman House has the L. Jeffrey Selznick School of Film Preservation, An International Program in Archival Training:
http://www.eastman.org/16_preserv/16_index.html
http://www.eastman.org/16_preserv/foreword.html
http://www.eastman.org/16_preserv/history.html
http://www.eastman.org/16_preserv/topics.html
http://www.eastman.org/16_preserv/procedure.html#application

Note the minimum educational requirement for admission is an undergraduate degree or its equivalent. So you should consider getting your Bachelors degree in a field that will apply to film archiving, perhaps library science, film studies, film production, or image science. You might contact organizations and people working in film preservation to see what they suggest. Here are some links:
http://www.cinematographer.com/article/mainv/0,7220,31533,00.html
http://www.amianet.org/
http://www.eastman.org/16_preserv/faculty.html
http://www.eastman.org/16_preserv/institut.html
http://www.rit.edu/~661www1/
http://www.cinema.ucla.edu/text/default.html
http://www.usc.edu/isd/archives/arc/
http://www.afi.com/about/preservation.asp

Whatever college course of studies you choose, keep your hand in the "technical" side of film. For example, while getting my BSEE at the State University of New York at Buffalo, I worked my way through college as a projectionist and in TV repair. Look for "work-study" programs, or other jobs in the film/television industry.



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Leo Enticknap
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Yes you can make a living in film preservation!

In addition to John P's excellent advice, I would add the following from my own experience.

Point 1: you need to really want to go down that career path and be prepared to spend a long time gaining both academic qualifications and vocational work experience. IMHO, both are equally important.

In my case it was nine years from leaving school to finally landing a position as a full-time, paid film archivist. I became interested in this area from taking an undergrad degree in history and running my college film society at the same time. A lot of my early technical knowledge was self-taught, but after graduating I worked as a projectionist at the National Film Theatre in London (all changeovers, lots of weird formats and nitrate - great experience) and then took a specialist masters' degree in film archiving at the University of East Anglia in Norwich, England (which at the time, 1995-96, was the only other such course in the world besides the George Eastman House degree).

Having completed this I was unable to land a film archiving job straightaway but armed with a masters' degree, I was able to secure research council funding to research and write a PhD thesis on film and history, whilst continuing to work as a projectionist at the local rep cinema in the evenings (partly because I needed the money and partly to keep my technical skills up to scratch). When I finished that in 1999 there were still no archive jobs going. Most of these organisations are public sector and a new government had just come in which froze public spending and cut it in the area of libraries, museums and archives. So I then had to work full-time as a projectionist for almost two years after that, whilst continuing to research, write and attempt to get my work published, before I finally landed an archiving job in April 2001.

Point 2: 99% of archive jobs aren't anything like as high-profile or as glamourous as the feature film restorations carried out by people like Kevin Brownlow and Robert Harris. I've just spent the last week preparing elements of a 1940s 16mm instructional film on how to milk a cow for having a new negative and telecine transfer made! But in many ways that's just as valuable in terms of social history as restoring the colour to a Hitchcock masterpiece (a farmer I consulted told me that this film shows a now obsolete method of cow milking, which makes its preservation even more important).

I think I'd be safe in saying that as a general rule, technical positions in archives are slightly easier to secure than the policy-making and administrative posts that arts graduates tend to go for, as most people who are attracted to archive work tend to come from that sort of background. If I mention to one of my colleagues that a film is interesting because it has a shuttered unilateral variable area soundtrack, I can see their eyes glaze over...

But I agree with John. Competition is tough; and qualifications AND experience are both essential.

Good luck!

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Dave Bird
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I was actually in film school for a couple months when my father died and I made the agonizing decision to come home to look after the family interests (my mother had died the year before). Follow your heart man, if you can (in a thinking man's realistic way). To paraphrase a friend of mine (and me): "The world's got enough linesmen!" Find your passion and you'll never want to retire.

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Paul G. Thompson
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Dave, that is also excellent advice.


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