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Brad Miller
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 - posted 01-30-2002 04:16 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm curious as to how many Film-Techers here watch TV. What do you watch, other than late night Miss Cleo infomercials? It seems most TV shows are turning into the same kind of recycled crap that Hollywood has been cranking out. I only know of one show on the air that is a stand-out for originality and entertainment value. Malcolm in the Middle!

So, what do YOU watch?


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Leo Enticknap
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I don't have a TV at home. I spend my working life dealing with moving images I want a break from them at home. I listen to the radio a lot and have a DVD drive in my PC which I occasionally watch the odd film on.

Another disincentive is the TV licence cost. This is in order that the semi-public British Broadcasting Corporation can be funded by the public but (supposedly) remain independent of the government. So instead of just paying for it out of general taxation (a process which the government could easily mess with for political reasons), it's funded by a licence, which anyone who has TV receiving equipment in their home has to buy (it costs, I think, around £120 per year).

So even someone who has a TV and only watches commercial stations has to pay the BBC for the privilege of so doing. There are one or two paid channels I'd quite like to have (e.g. Film Four) but were I to do so I'd have to pay the BBC as well as the subscription for them, which pisses me off somewhat because they broadcast total rubbish: endless soap operas, repeats and totally hard-left biased news reporting. Over the last few years the things that the licence fee should have been paying for - major films, live sports coverage, serious documentaries - have either disappeared or gone to pay-per-view channels. IMHO they should get rid of the licence and make the existing two BBC stations pay-per-view too. Then they'd find out just how many licence payers would willingly cough up for their broadcasting in a free and fair market.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Except for Seinfeld, I can't stand most of the new shows that I call sh!tcoms. I watch American Classic Movies, Turner Classic, Discovery channel, Biography,and History channel on the rare occasion that I even watch TV. I do restore old pre 1950 TV sets(round CRT only!) as one of my seldon gotten to hobbies. Out of a collection of 9 pre 1950 sets that I have managed to aquire, I've only been able to manage about one restore a year. Although I have a Mitsubishi HDTV, which my DVD feeds, I generally watch my restored RCA TS721 10" set(1947).


(Insert 721TS-2 photo here)


This thing has such a tack sharp picture that its actually fun to watch it. Especially the old B&W re-runs of You bet your life, or the Honeymooners. TV used to be great!

Mark @ GTS


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Peter Berrett
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Hi all

I don't watch much terrestrial or cable tv. I do however have a free to air satellite tv setup which receives some interesting channels. Of late I have been watching the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's new Asia-Pacific service. At various times they have been showing old episodes of "Bush Tucker Man", a sort of documentary series showing how to survive in the Northern Australia using bush foods. The photography is superb (I believe the early series were shot on film) and the locations very beautiful.

A series to keep an eye out for.
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~canine/bushtucker/index.html

cheers Peter


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Josh Kirkhart
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Ok, I'm the only entertainment junky here.

Alias
any Law and Order
Nypd Blue
Smallville
West Wing
U.C.
the Job
24
Enterprise

My wife records a lot while I work. I can't get enough of any of this crap, hell I wasted 88 minutes of my life on Kung Pow or worse yet last year--Pootie-tang. Why oh why?

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Mark Lensenmayer
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Some of the best shows are on the Food Channel. Best is GOOD EATS, with Alton Brown. I like to cook, and I've learned many good ideas from him. He tells why things work like they do...he also has lots or really good cooking "toys" (like the teakettle with spinning rocketships...had to get that one when I saw it)

New show is COOK'S TOUR, Anthony Bourdain. This is about a chef who is travelling the world in search of unusual food. He is very opinionated, very entertaining and I have found this to be an excellent program. Supposedly, he eats live cobra heart on one show. Some of the food looked pretty good, but some I wouldn't go near. He's braver than I am (and he DOES get sick, occasionally!)

But the greatest of all is IRON CHEF. I love the pageantry, the sports-like atmosphere and the skill of the contestants. (Did you know much of the music is from BACKDRAFT?) I find myself using phases from the show just to see if I can find other true fans. If I get a reaction to "Always a pleasure", I know this is another IC fan.

Other good shows: The Sopranos (took me 16 episodes to really get it!), Sex and the City, Project Greenlight (discovered this late, but it is excellent---shows the backbiting and intrigue of making a real movie), and IMUS IN THE MORNING on MS-NBC. I also never miss MCLAUGHLIN GROUP. Oh, and the best part of a quiet Sunday is SUNDAY MORNING on CBS...a true civilized moment that is as good as TV gets.

OH, and the Dennis Miller HBO show.

And, no, I don't work for HBO.

(Nice to have HBO sending some of the newer films out with 5.1 Dolby sound, like Showtime and STARZ.)

That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.

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Chris Erwin
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In Newton Minow's speech to the National Association of Broadcasters on May 9, 1961:

When television is good, nothing--not the theater, not the magazines or newspapers--nothing is better.

But when television is bad, nothing is worse. I invite you to sit down in front of your television set when your station goes on the air and stay there without a book, magazine, newspaper, profit and-loss sheet or rating book to distract you--and keep your eyes glued to that set until the station signs off. I can assure you that you will observe a vast wasteland.

You will see a procession of game shows, violence, audience-participation shows, formula comedies about totally unbelievable families, blood and thunder, mayhem, violence, sadism, murder, western badmen, western good men, private eyes, gangsters, more violence and cartoons. And, endlessly, commercials--many screaming, cajoling and offending. And most of all, boredom. True, you will see a few things you will enjoy. But they will be very, very few. And if you think I exaggerate, try it.
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So that was in 1961. And how about today? I tend to agree with some of his comments. I don't watch any show on a regular basis. When I watch TV, it's mostly old movies, old shows, or documentaries. Sometimes, I turn to one of those music only channels that are on the dish and listen to music while I do other things.

I thought I'd throw that Newton Minnow piece in there just to see what people thought. My college professors in the school of communications would be proud of me.
--Chris


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John Pytlak
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Here's a link to the current channel lineup on Time-Warner Cable in Rochester:
http://www.twrochester.com/ChannelLineups/rochester2.cfm

I subscribe to the Basic, Standard, Digital Music and Digital television services they offer, as well as Road Runner for ISP.

I usually watch AMC, TCM, the documentary channels and the news channels (CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, BBC America, Newsworld). The basic and standard tier channels are still carried as analog, and generally have better image quality than the digital channels, which often have artifacts because of excessive digital compression. I don't subscribe to any of the "premium" services like HBO or Showtime. I am an NFL football fan, and my younger daughter loves figure skating. Looking forward to the Winter Olympics.

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Jerry Chase
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We do not EVER watch live TV anymore, we Tivo anything we want to see. Most of what we end up watching is old movies on TCM, some "Who's Line Is It, Anyway?", some "Jeopardy", and some science and current affairs shows. We used to watch "Screen Savers" back when it was Kate and Leo, partly for the tech stuff, and partly to see how chummy Kate and Leo could get before Leo's wife stepped in.
Watching Pat in his kilts doesn't have the same effect on me...

I've heard "West Wing" is good, but haven't bothered to watch. Real-life politics is too much of a soap opera for me anyway.

Oh yeah, Bill Moyers has a new show on PBS (called "Now"?) which we plan on watching regularly. The first show in the series was excellent.

Miss Cleo was the reason for my getting a Tivo unit. I can't thank her enough.

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Ken Layton
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There's only one program I watch: FAMILY GUY!

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Barry Floyd
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I've never had cable TV, so I have no idea about what they offer.

I usually catch these show on a regular basis:
JAG
CSI
NYPD Blue
Law & Order (any variety)
King of Queens (sometimes)
Bob the Builder (required by my son)
Star Trek Voyager (late night)

Radio is my best bet for the entertainment dollar:
The G. Gordon Liddy Show
Sports Talk (Nashville Predator's Hockey)
The Dave Ramsey Show

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Evans A Criswell
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Most of the time when I'm using my TV, it is to watch DVDs. When I do watch TV, I tend to watch the Cartoon Network when they're playing classic cartoons like the Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, and watch Comedy Central sometimes, and sometimes find very interesting shows on TLC and Discovery, although they run the same shows over and over. I really hate the logos on the screen all the time, since I remember TV before that got started. Some stations even put a black bar at the bottom of the picture, and they either black out part of the picture or compress the picture to fit the part of the picture that isn't black. I refuse to watch such a station.

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Bob Maar
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Shows that I try not to miss:

Law and Order
Walker Texas Ranger
CSI
Fear Factor
Fox News Channel
MS-NBC
Judge Judy
AMC
HBO
Starz
Bravo
Seinfeld re-runs
Weakest Link (Watch for my Son Rob Jr. Taping end of Feb.
Game show channel
Sports - Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, Rangers, Knicks

Shows I will not watch

Gardening
Food shows
Cartoons

We receive over 300 channels and sometims can't find a thing to see.

In 1976 I was on the Pyramid Show with Dick Clark and in 78 I was on Pass the Buck with Bill McCullah. So you neverknow who you will see on the Game Show Channel.

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Dustin Mitchell
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I don't watch a lot of TV, not because I don't want to, but because I don't have time. I'm always either at school or at work, and the two nights a week I have free I either watch DVD's or play on my computer.

But I must admit, I am a junky when it comes to certain shows. Unfortunately those certain shows are on when I'm not home or on channels I don't get. So, I buy them on DVD. So far I have season two of the Sopranos on DVD and season one of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (please don't make fun of me, I feel enough shame the way it is).

Okay, not sure why I'm telling you this but this is REALLY sad. You see, after five years in syndication they just released season one of Buffy this January. Season two won't be out until June. That means by the time season three or four comes out it will be next year. Well, like any adict I can't wait that long. Enter region free DVD player. Thats right, I dropped 300 bucks on a region free multi-format player just so I could order Buffy from Australia, where its been released up to season 3 and season 4 will come out in April.

Gawd...I'm a loser.

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Mike Spaeth
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The only thing I watch regularly is:

"The O'Reilly Factor"

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