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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1714
From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-26-2002 06:39 PM
Since I can't sample or afford T1, I guess DSL rocks!We have had DSL for two years here at the Rialto office and we like it very much. We, however, don't download large programs or multimedia files that often. We have also not downloaded an entire feature film yet. Heck my hard drive only is 4 gigs. I have not heard that the type of Internet connection that Joe Redifer has, is available where I live yet. But it does sound promising. I have heard that wireless is a bit slower than a hard connection to DSL but Sebastopol (a town 8 miles from me) is experimenting with free wireless web connections. Now that would rock. I still feel that I wouldn't pay for a fast Internet connection at my home. It is not very expensive for a business but it is still too expensive for individuals. This from a man who has the "Everything" package from Dish Network.
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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-27-2002 07:39 PM
Modems run at 56K now but the phone lines mostly let you run at 28K to 44K. (Most people are paying $10 - $24 per month for their ISP)ISDN runs at 128K (The last place I worked payed $300 per month for ISDN) DSL runs at 384KB to 1.5MB depending on the level of service you buy. Upload speed is usually lower. PacBell offers 13KB to start. We haven't seen the need for more. We aren't serving the Web from our theatre. (We pay $70 per month for 5 IP addresses. Most people pay $40 per month and then scam the other computers.) Can anyone tell us what Cable runs at and how much it costs? T-1 runs 1.5MB full duplex which means it runs at that speed for uploads and downloads. Very handy if you have your own web server like Brad does. (Brad could tell us what this costs but I suspect it is about $1,000 per month.) I don't know what Satalite is offering or Fiber to the Curb. (Satalite is $40 per month on top of your television package which I pay $60 per month for. Joe can tell us what he pays for Fiber to the Curb.)
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Jason Burroughs
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 654
From: Allen, TX
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-28-2002 12:03 AM
I'm not sure if it varies by market but Cable Modem (AT&T Broadband) in the Dallas area is $50/month not including Cable Modem rental (available but not mandatory) 1 IP Address, Downstream speed of 1.5MB and upstream spead of 128KB. Cable Modem is good for surfing and downloading, but would not work well at all for hosting anything. I currently have about 10 computers behind a Linksys Broadband Router (~&100), providing NAT, allowing all computers to "share" the 1 IP Address. It also provides a minimal firewall since anyone accessing the IP Address will be accessing the router, no the computers.Since AT&T's DNS service is lacking I have my own DNS servers pointed to a reliable source. ISDN was about &70/month (not including ISP fee) unlimited usage (some locations meter usage) 128KB up and downstream DSL is approx the same price as Cable Modem access, however many ISP's have gone to a PPPoE scheme which acts like a dialup connection. To access the intenet, you have to "connect" first. The DSL is always on, always there, but you have to initiate a session. Not good for hosting anything either, as the session CAN time out. In Regards to DSL Vs T1's the Speeds can match and even Exceed T1 speeds both up and downstream. HOWEVER the way that the FCC has the laws written, DSL is considered an extra service, much like call waiting and callnotes (voicemail) they are under very lax restrictions as far as service level and repair times. The phone companies know this and the exploit it too. Good source on different ISP's is http://www.dslreports.com they not only cover DSL but other boadband as well.
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Scott Norwood
Film God
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 02-28-2002 12:14 AM
To answer Joe's request for a 10/100 router: I would be tempted to recommend a Cisco box (there are plenty of 2600-series and 3600-series models on Ebay at any given time), but I assume that the request is probably for something cheap. Also, assuming that NAT (network address translation) is a requirement, I'll point out that Cisco boxes don't exactly have a great reputation in that department.For a combination of "cheap" and "good," I'd probably recommend a PC running FreeBSD or NetBSD with IPfilter, which can be configured to do NAT and, if desired, fairly complex firewalling as well. I've been very happy with FreeBSD and IPfilter and am using it on a network of about 100 machines (not at home, of course). I have something like five network interfaces in one mid-range Pentium box and some fairly complex firewall rules, yet the thing barely breaks a sweat. The configuration requires more work than would be necessary for a hardware router, but the flexibility and cost savings may well justify it.
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