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John Wilson
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From: Sydney, Australia.
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posted 10-29-2001 06:43 PM

Here's a couple of shots from the new ET, courtesy of dvdsewer.com

Here's the original shot with the FBI agents holding guns...

...and now here's the new one. Now they are holding very dangerous looking walkie talkies!

I think they look too dangerous. They should re-re-edit it and have them holding peace signs or maybe just a bunch of daisies. Or maybe they could just wave E.T. bye-byes.

Geez...Is nothing sacred?

Oh, and here's the new poster for those who haven't seen it...

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Joe Beres
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posted 10-29-2001 07:30 PM

"E.T., this is the FBI, there is someone who wants to talk to you on these walkie talkies."

This is so sad and stupifying. I don't even know what to say. A couple years ago, I heard that Drew Barrymore was asking that all guns be removed from the film. At the time, it seemed like a ridiculous request, that would never be fulfilled. But now, here we are, images in hand. It honestly makes me very sad and upset. I am scared to see what's next on the digital chopping block.

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Brad Miller
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posted 10-29-2001 07:32 PM

Pathetic! Just pathetic!

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Greg Mueller
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posted 10-29-2001 07:57 PM

Come clean now John... come on. We know you really put those guns in that scene and them took them out again with your computer. It's the oldest trick in the book. The old walkie talkie/gun switcheroo. Shame on you

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Richard Fowler
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posted 10-29-2001 08:47 PM

Also check out the DVD of Snow White....they did so much digital scrubbing they made many scenes look flat...oh that character shadow was some excess dirt in the frame ugh....my mother would turn in the grave since E.T. was her all time favorite....she was a serious two to three feature a week lady.
Richard Fowler
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Joe Redifer
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posted 10-29-2001 09:11 PM

Am I the only one on the planet who did not care for E.T.? Sure it's good for kids ages 9 and under, but I was just bored and extremely uninterested. It's not as bad as Close Encounters of the Turd Kind, though. Now THAT was a boring ass movie!

Anyway, Drew Barrymore always gets what she wants because a few people on this planet think she's cute. I would think that being married to Tom Green would make her support guns so that she could shoot him!

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Aaron Sisemore
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posted 10-29-2001 11:06 PM

Whats Spielberg gonna do next? Both Matt Damon and Tom Hanks (and Spielberg as well but he still makes films with guns in them...at least until the E.T. reissue) support politicians that want to abolish the Second Amendment... Why don't they pressure Spielberg to release a gunless edition of 'Saving Private Ryan'? Sound unbelieveable? After this, who knows what can happen?. THIS CRAP HAS TO STOP.

Screw Drew. Shame on you Steven.

Hey Steven- Here's an idea! Why not leave in the guns and digitally remove DREW?!? Then you dont have to pay her any freaking royalties in the process!

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-Aaron

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Joe Redifer
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posted 10-30-2001 01:32 AM

LOL! That way Drew wouldn't be "associated" with the guns and everyone would be happy! I'd probably see the rerelease without Drew just for shits and giggles!

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John Wilson
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posted 10-30-2001 03:19 AM

Curses Greg! Foiled again!

A gun-less Private Ryan...Very funny!

If it wasn't so sad it'd be funny. I am a big fan of Spielberg's work through to about 1985 when he hit producer and wanted an oscar. Temple Of Doom I think was the last film from him I truly enjoyed. I'm all for sprucing up the old rubbery guy (!) with some nice clean sound, maybe a couple of deleted scenes and some restoring of the print, but why oh why do he and George insist on altering these fine pieces of our culture?

I was reading elsewhere today of the scene in Star Wars Special Edition where George Lucas made Greedo shhot first in the cantina so Han wouldn't look like a scruffy looking Nerf herding scoundrel by shooting Greedo unprovoked. Hey, Han WAS a scruffy looking Nerf herder! Why change it so long after the fact? Did he think it would go un-noticed?

Why, indeed.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 10-30-2001 03:51 AM

I know the scene is Star Wars of which you speak. My first impression was "What da hell?" I mean he missed by a mile. I don't remember seeing his finger(?) pull the trigger.

I think Jar Jar should be killed, even if he doesn't shoot first. Audiences around the globe would cheer in unison and the film would make twice as much money just from fans wanting to see the bastard die again and again.

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Randy Stankey
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posted 10-30-2001 04:32 AM

Jar Jar should fall into a Saarlac pit-beast. Anakin should help him. That could be his first "kill" that turns him to the Dark Side of the Force.

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John Anastasio
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posted 10-30-2001 04:52 AM

I'll bet that not one of you noticed that the tires on those cars were retouched to change them from Firestones to B.F. Goodrich because of the safety issues! E.T. was also altered to make him more of an R78-15 with the water-repellent tread design.

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Aaron Haney
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posted 10-30-2001 05:25 AM

A while back, I heard this was coming, so I bought some used laserdisc copies of the movie, just in case. Now I'm glad I did.

I simply cannot believe it. F--- you, Steven Spielberg! You think all that money in your personal fortune came out of thin air? A movie like this belongs to the public! The people who made you rich deserve to be able to see the movie in its original form!

Don't get me started on the Star Wars trilogy. I can only hope that the Indiana Jones trilogy arrives on DVD unmolested.

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Richard Fowler wrote:
Also check out the DVD of Snow White....they did so much digital scrubbing they made many scenes look flat...oh that character shadow was some excess dirt in the frame ugh....

I haven't seen it yet, but I wouldn't be surprised. I'm planning to put together a web page in which I list, with screenshots, as many cases of digital "cleanup" errors in DVDs I can find. Perhaps a little public embarrassment will cause the idiots who work in DVD production to pay more attention.

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Carl King
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posted 10-30-2001 08:21 AM

Brad is right. It is pathetic. PC is just another way to do away
with individual rights of expression that you Americans hold so
dearly. It seems that some of your fellow citizens, as evidenced by
recent efforts to censor Bill Mahar and others,only like free speech if they agree with what is in the speech.

I don't think anyone shoult take Ms Barrymore too seriously, though.
After all, she has shown her lack of taste and intelligence by marrying Tom Green.

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Heyward Garner
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posted 10-30-2001 08:41 AM

It's a shame that we can't get over this crap. Drew Barrymore (pardon what I'm about to say...) is a SLUT HOE. These films... If ANYTHING... Should be added to, not taken away from for stupid reasons. If a director wishes to change a scene or add stuff, that's his option to do so... Not to butcher the film and make it into a pile of horse dookie! I am in total compliance that this NEEDS TO STOP...

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