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Peter Berrett
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From: Victoria, Australia
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posted 03-25-2002 02:18 AM

Well the votes are in and the announcements have been made.

Moulin Rouge is NOT best picture and Nicole Kidman is NOT best actress. At last the Academy has shown some good taste.

Catherine Martin did however win Best Costume Design and also Best Art Direction for the film. I have no difficulties with these awards as it was quite a showy film. It just illustrates that this film is much like Sydney - lots of glitter and glam but not much substance. (Spoken as a true Melbournite)

Pity about Amelie not picking up any statues but as I have not seen seen 'No Mans Land' I cannot compare. At any rate Amelie's success both in the US and overseas is reward enough.

cheers Peter

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 03-25-2002 02:40 AM

IMHO the best Oscar result was Murder on a Sunday Morning winning best documentary. Hopefully this will kick-start a proper release.

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John Wilson
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posted 03-25-2002 03:29 AM

Peter,

This post just proves there is no hope for you.

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Peter Berrett
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posted 03-25-2002 04:50 AM

Ok John

I'm a hopeless case.

I think its a good idea not to take these awards too seriously. What is really important is that we have some films to enjoy or not to enjoy as the case may be.

I was just running my eye through past winners of awards and noted that there is a distinct bias against comedies and musicals. Perhaps the Academy does not take such films too seriously?

I'd like to see a category included for Best Comedy or Musical to recognise that there is more to life than just 'serious' filmmaking.

cheers Peter

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John Wilson
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posted 03-25-2002 04:57 AM

Hi Peter

Yes, you are a hopeless case. You're just jealous because Celine Dion was not nominated for anything.

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James R. Hammonds, Jr
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posted 03-25-2002 08:50 AM

Celine Dion should never be nominated for ANYTHING.

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Greg Mueller
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posted 03-25-2002 09:12 AM

I figured LOTR would sweep, as everyone loved the book and they're all hobbit heads at heart. What I didn't count on was "The Year of The Affirmative Action Oscars". Oh well, not a giant surprise from the land that coined the phrase "PC". Personally I feel that the academy has for to long ignored the efforts of German/English heritage, Americans and I think more awards should go to them. I never agree with the academy anyhow

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 03-25-2002 11:43 AM

LOTR did not win for the same reason E.T. did not win back in the day...it was fantasy, and it was too popular. It would've had a better chance if it had bombed.

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Dave Williams
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posted 03-25-2002 02:21 PM

Titanic was very popular and a success, and it swept the oscars.

I think the big robbery was giving the best supporting actor to Jim Broadbent for Iris. He has had better performances, and deserved it for Moulin Rouge, although not nominated for that one.

As for good taste? the academy is hardly known for good taste. Moulin Rouge was in my opinion far and away the best picture of the year. But substance won over glitz and glamour for a change.

Dave

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Chad Souder
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posted 03-25-2002 09:50 PM

I think they are actually going to change the name from the Academy Awards to the Quota Awards. I agree with Greg. The whole night was affirmative action. Answer me this. Halle Berry had a black father who abandoned her at a youg age, right? She has a white mother that was at the awards ceremony, and she thanked her during her speech, indicating that she is closer to her mother than said father. So, why is she up there blubbering like a 4 year old that lost her puppy about how great a time it is for african-americans? I guess I just don't understand why people are so infatuated with labels (first black woman to win, first black man since Sidney to win...) and they have to make such a big deal of "Look, we give awards to minorities too!" Why are people like Tiger Woods who have mixed parents disected when they achieve greatness, so that each race involved can stake a claim to their percentage? I personally think it's that sort of thing that keeps lines drawn between people.

On a side note, where did Will Smith go?

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Gordon McLeod
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posted 03-25-2002 09:53 PM

Well the academy is a private organization of industry memebers and as such really isn't responsible to any outside group to justify its decisions so if they decide title x is best picture so be it it is no more diffenet than the film-tech community vote title y as its best picture

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Darryl Spicer
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posted 03-25-2002 09:57 PM

That's why we have the peoples choice awards.

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Adam Martin
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posted 03-25-2002 11:22 PM

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Why are people like Tiger Woods who have mixed parents disected when they achieve greatness, so that each race involved can stake a claim to their percentage? I personally think it's that sort of thing that keeps lines drawn between people.

You mean dissected, like what you just did to Halle Berry?

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Halle Berry had a black father who abandoned her at a youg age, right? She has a white mother that was at the awards ceremony, and she thanked her during her speech, indicating that she is closer to her mother than said father. So, why is she up there blubbering like a 4 year old that lost her puppy about how great a time it is for african-americans?

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Darryl Spicer
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posted 03-25-2002 11:37 PM

Hmmmmm maybe because she is the first African american to win the Best actress academy award. She was the longshot just because of that. She had the right to shed those tears. She did mention her fathers name and thanked him before she thanked her mother and husband.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 03-25-2002 11:51 PM

To address Leo's comment, "Murder on a Sunday Morning" will air next Sunday Night on HBO after "Six Feet Under" as part of their America Undercover documentary series. It may not be a film release, but many people will have a chance to see this Oscar awarded documentary.

On the Halle Berry thing, I wouldn't call her win a politically correct thing or a "quota" thing. I thought her performance in "Monster's Ball" was worthy of an Oscar. Everybody is throwing around the "first black actress to win" thing when she also happens to be half-white as well. Denzel Washington put it best in a press conference when a reporter asked him when he thought black actors will simply be thought of as just "actors" without the color label. Denzel told the reporter he could start the trend now if he liked and just call Washington an actor in the report.

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