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Topic: Trajan: The Most Overused Font in Movie Title Design
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Ken Lackner
Phenomenal Film Handler
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From: Atlanta, GA, USA
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 04-07-2002 10:57 PM
One of my favorites is Gill Sans used for Frequency. I called New Line and asked them what font that was when I did my promotion for that movie.I never realized that all those logos used the same font. Nice picture! Did you make that, or did you find it on the internet somewhere? ------------------ This one time, at Projection Camp, I stuck a xenon bulb....
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-25-2002 05:26 PM
"XXX" is okay for a movie title logo. What I would like to see is a little more effort than that. Take "Planet of the Apes" for instance, as an example of "extra effort." I'm not sure of the details, but Fox' marketing department apparently paid House Industries/Brand Design and the Font Bureau to custom design the Simian Display type family, of which the Planet of the Apes title is based. Visit: http://www.houseind.com, choose the Search By Font Name dialog and scroll down to Simian Fonts to see an example of the family. Anyone could have developed the Planet of the Apes title in a vector drawing program like Illustrator or Freehand and just left it alone. But that "extra effort" was put into creating a complete typeface family with both text and display families along with special character "ligature" sets. That's pretty cool. Especially when one actually knows the kind of time required for developing a complete typeface. That is no easy thing. You have to draw out all the characters, get them tweaked just right, fool with the letter spacing, make kerning pairs, go back and adjust certain letter glyphs to correct some spacing headaces, and on and on. And you do that for every individual font weight you design. Fox probably paid a lot of money to have the things drawn up. And you get to pay $150 for the fonts if you want them. That helps pay for all that design time. And just think, Fox could just have easily used Trajan and maybe a lot of people would not have really cared.
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-25-2002 09:03 PM
The lettering in "Star Wars" is really a logo only. I derived a vector version of it a long time ago (by scanning in my soundtrack CD cover as a source) and recall repetitive letters like "A", "R" and "S" were not identical in the multiple places they appear in the logo.However, people have made knock off designs based on the logo. "The Matrix" is another such example. That one is just the Times font being chopped apart and welded in other spots. But a knock off version of that one exists. Not too many films have their own custom fonts created for them. I'm pretty sure "Fight Club" had its own custom font made for it. I don't know if "Apostrophe" is the original designer of the face, but you can download the font, Fight This, free of charge in Mac or PC format from his site (see package 0014). http://www.apostrophiclab.com/
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 09-28-2002 02:45 PM
That's why I make the big bucks (I wish). With "cheap" or "free" being big influences on the graphics market, it is tough for real graphic designers to sell someone on doing a web site design or print marketing campaign with real graphic design quality. Many businesses think they can do it all in house. That comes from a basic standpoint that people don't see computer art in the same terms as traditional art. Anyone can buy a new multiprocessor Mac, load it with Photoshop and a slew of other programs. But in the end, they are staring at the same blank canvas as they would if trying to tackle the fine art of oil painting, charcoals or pastels. The design concept one develops in the mind, and the ability to make that concept realized on canvas, paper or in Photoshop is the big difference. I'm looking at things like 3D animation and digital video oriented graphics as a different field to explore. DV is very excluding from the wannabes for the relatively high hardware/software price for entry. A person has to be pretty serious about what they do to get into that field. You can't "download" a new Panasonic AG-DVX100 3CCD camera off Morpheus (much less all the other gear to go with it). To get back on "Trajan", I'm finding it in more places --like the new personalized license plate that finally came in the mail for my sportside pickup:
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