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Mike Schindler
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posted 07-21-2002 11:40 AM

So, is this thing really coming out on 8/2? Is it going to be a wide release, or what?

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Charles Everett
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posted 07-21-2002 12:12 PM

Full Frontal opens 8/2 in NYC/LA (at least) and 8/16 national. It may go wide depending on product flow and B.O.

Advice to Mike: Peep Upcoming Movies and Film Releases to stay current on release dates.

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John Pytlak
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posted 07-22-2002 10:44 AM

"Full Frontal" was shot on mini-DV (have fun focusing

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http://www.powershot.com/powershot2/full_frontal/
http://www.canondv.com/awardncase/soderbergh.html
http://www.apple.com/hotnews/articles/2002/04/fullfrontal/fullfrontal1.html
http://www.soderbergh.net/news/latestnews.htm

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Joe Redifer
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posted 07-22-2002 11:51 AM

MiniDV ROCKS! Way better than film. Stevie Soderburger is a genius! There had better be a damn good reason he wanted this film of his to look like crap!

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Mike Schindler
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posted 07-22-2002 12:08 PM

First off, Soderbergh is a genius. That's not an opinion, it's a fact.

Secondly, I think that he was willing to make the sacrifice in quality on this film in order to take advantage of the flexibility that the XL1s has to offer. Would it be appropriate for SOLARIS? No. But it's fine for FULL FRONTAL.

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Brad Miller
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posted 07-22-2002 03:54 PM

Mike, Soderbergh may in fact be a genius, but if he is truly a genius, he has just lost all of his brain power when he decided to shoot a movie destined to be shown in theaters with the MiniDV format. I'm not knocking the MiniDV format, as I've used it (Joe even has the same camera Soderbergh used) and it's great for "tv" stuff, but it is shit for theaters.

Fact, Soderbergh is not a genuis.

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John Scott
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posted 07-22-2002 04:23 PM

From what I recall reading, Soderberg (sp?) filmed in this format because he wanted to do a "guerrilla"-style film. Apparently the entire film was shot in less than 3 weeks and the actors brought in their own wardrobe and did their own makeup.

Very low budget and experimental and using the camera he did helped make it so I guess.

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Bill Gabel
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From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA
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posted 07-22-2002 04:34 PM

Having run this picture a few times. It starts out with
film and then switches back & forth, between DV footage
and film. As he follows diffrent actors stories. The film
footage looks great, as for the DV footage it looks like
crap.

Happy Focusing

Bill

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Mike Schindler
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posted 07-22-2002 05:15 PM

I don't see how someone using DV is any different than someone using Super 35. You're sacrificing quality, but gaining other desirable things. I agree that DV looks like shit. If it were me, I'd shoot on film. But Soderbergh has stated many many times that he's willing to live with something which is not perfect on a technical level if something can be gained on an emotional level, whatever that something may be.

As for whether or not Soderbergh's a genius, three things lead me to this conclusion. OUT OF SIGHT, THE LIMEY, and TRAFFIC.

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Brad Miller
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posted 07-22-2002 06:06 PM

Mike, I'm sure that someone out there thinks Freddy Got Fingered was a masterpiece of filmmaking. Don't laugh, I guarantee you there IS someone out there, somewhere who thinks that. So by your logic, Tom Green is a genuis? You need to rethink your logic. Besides, I didn't think any of those films you listed were all that great. Remember, this is all opinion.

By the way, Super35 can look DAMNED good if done properly.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 07-22-2002 08:17 PM

Yep. Super35 can look really good when properly enlarged from the source elements to 70mm. Maybe that's why James Cameron paid out of his own pocket to get those few 70mm DTS prints of "Titanic" made.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 07-22-2002 08:20 PM

The only thing to be gained emotionally by having DV blown up on a huge movie theater screen would be the anger from the audience from having to watch low resolution PAL video instead of seeing the quality they are used to seeing from film, especially when it switches back and forth from PAL DV to film.

Maybe Soderburgh is a genius. Maybe this is his way of demonstrating how bad video looks and how good film looks by switching back and forth in comparison.

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Dave Williams
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
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posted 07-22-2002 08:56 PM

Soderbergh is not a genius. He is however very clever. He is even at times insightful. Too many people confuse bieng clever and bieng insightful with having genius. I am a genius. I carry a 168 IQ, which is smaller than my own sons IQ of 183.

However, I am not clever, nor am I insightful. And bieng a genius gets you nowhere. Everyone hates a genius. They know everything. YOu want them to just shut up and go to hell. I hate myself. I wish I would just go to hell!

Soderbergh is insightful enough to realize his full frontal film has less than two weeks of life to it, and will only have life on video, so why bother using film? That's not genius, that's just bieng clever.

Dave

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Joe Redifer
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posted 07-22-2002 10:40 PM

What is the IQ that is required for being a genius, by the way? I'm sure that I am safely under the threshold!

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Gracia L. Babbidge
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From: Bowdoin, Maine
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posted 07-23-2002 12:09 AM

err... I think to qualify as 'genius' your IQ needs to be 150 or above, but I may be mistaken here.

...if my memory serves, my IQ is something like 165. On more than one occasion I was told that I was 'too smart for two people, but not smart enough for one'... *shrugs*

Difference between genius & insanity? Genius has its limits!

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