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Peter Berrett
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 602
From: Victoria, Australia
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 08-27-2002 04:11 AM

Hi again

Following recent discussion of super-8 projectors, I looked around a bit on the Internet and have noted that super-8 projectors can be picked up extremely cheaply (ie for $US10).

I would not mind picking up a cheap projector locally to compare with 16mm and also to play any super-8 movies I come across. I might even try my hand at recording dts stereo on the stereo magnetic tracks as Brad has outlined.

All the above brings me to the obvious question. What are good models, what are &%$# models etc.

Keep in mind that I don't want to spend big $$$ to get a super-8 projector I just want to find a reliable projector at a cheap price.

To put things in perspective here are some models available on Ebay and elsewhere. I have listed only super-8 projectors as I am not interested in normal 8mm projectors. Due to shipping costs I'm only interested in sourcing one locally.

Here's some of what is available

Sankyo 2000H currently $A41
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1375324731

Super-8 projector (unknown brand/model) $20
http://www.mytrader.com.au/browse.php?category=118

Most of the above are auctions, and it possible I might not choose any of the above, but at least your comments can help steer me in thr right direction.

Thoughts please?

Thanks Peter

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Bernard Tonks
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 619
From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 08-27-2002 05:46 AM

After 50 years as a projectionist, which included home cinema and running a commercial cinema, I said that I would call it a day! This is now not the case as I’m going in for DVD projection cinema. I am now also interested in Super 8mm. There is a very good 8mm Forum website that I came across long ago by pure chance. This would be useful if only I could find it again; I have tried searching, and was hoping there would be a link on the Derann website. Sure Brad could help us here.

You could also go magnetic on 16mm with a double band projector!

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Peter Berrett
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 602
From: Victoria, Australia
Registered: Nov 2000

posted 08-27-2002 05:57 AM

Thanks Bernard but a 16mm and a super8mm will do me fine for now. Digital and stereo 16mm can wait. I still have to learn to drive my 16mm machine without mashing Roadshow's shiny new 16mm print into tiny pieces!

I think, looking down the track, that my next step after playing with these machines for a while might be to get a super 8mm camera and try making my own movies. I think it might be an interesting exercise to
make a super 8mm film for display at a festival but with dts sound.

cheers Peter

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Scott Norwood
Film God

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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99

posted 08-27-2002 06:07 AM

I'll point out here that it's usually cheaper to shoot and edit 16mm than super-8, at least in the US. Plus, you have a better choice of labs and equipment and it's easier to show the prints when you are done. I'd suggest thinking twice about making your own films in super-8, unless you really love the "home movie" look. Modern 16mm color negative films are light-years better in quality, though, for about the same price.

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John Pytlak
Film God

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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 08-27-2002 09:00 AM

Here is information about Super 8 on the Kodak website:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/

Great way to "get started". Many use Super-8 in music videos, or to get the home movie "look". Note that Kodak even offers Kodak VISION 200T Color Negative Film in Super 8:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/super8/film.shtml

I agree with Scott that 16mm offers more options, and has a long history of being used as a professional format. The larger image area of Super-16 offers even greater image quality, and is very suitable for widescreen television and blow-up to 35mm:
http://www.acvl.org/manual.htm

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