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Topic: Health Groups Want Movies with Smoking Labled
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Bill Gabel
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From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 11-14-2002 03:38 PM
This is from NBC. here R RESTRICTED Under 17 requires accompanying Parent or Adult Guardian
Strong Language included A scene of sexual dialogue A scene with a actor smoking
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Scott Norwood
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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-14-2002 04:14 PM
This is just silly. I don't smoke, have never smoked, and most likely never will smoke, and even _I_ am sick of anti-smoking campaigns like this one. Let people make up their own minds, based on plenty of available medical evidence. As long as I'm not forced to breathe smoke-polluted air in enclosed spaces (restaurants, airplanes, office buildings, theatres, etc.), I see no reason for anti-smoking laws or propaganda campaigns....
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Ian Price
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From: Denver, CO
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 11-14-2002 05:14 PM
I am a virulent anti-smoker. My mother used to smoke and she smoked in the car. My father got cancer of the larynx because of smoking. He's fine, but you should hear his voice. I couldn't stand it. I am in favor of most laws that restrict smoking. Living in California I have gotten quite used to there being no smoking anywhere. I am very surprised when I leave California and they ask me in a restaurant if I want smoking or no smoking.That said, banning for placing a restriction on smoking in the movies is stupid! Just because some idiot sticks a toy car up his rectum and goes to see a doctor doesn't mean I am going to do it. Just because some dork drives his car off of a cliff doesn't mean I am going to drive my minivan off of a cliff. Just because I thought it was cool when Keanu Reeves shot like a thousand bullets in Matrix doesn't mean I am going to do the same. Just because some guy in a movie goes to bed with 5 high school babes doesn't mean I will. (Damn!) Just because some babe looks very sexy lighting up a cigarette in a movie doesn't mean I don't find cigarettes nasty and disgusting. After all, I don't have to kiss that woman in the movie. And by the way, I can't smell or breathe cigarette smoke that happens on film in a movie. The concept of personal responsibility seems to have gone missing. I still think smoking should be allowed in Bars that have no restaurants.
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Thomas Procyk
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From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 11-14-2002 08:55 PM
I'm allergic to tobacco smoke. It irritates my nose to the point where I will sneeze six times in a row. I was kind of glad that Amendment 6 passed here in Florida which prohibits smoking in any enclosed public place except smoke shops and free standing bars. At last, I can enjoy a night at the bowling alley or pool hall without leaving looking like I have the flu or something. Nonetheless, I have no problem with people choosing to smoke.Putting smoking in the ratings reasons is absurd, though. Our local newspaper in West Palm Beach ran a small column in the weekend movie section called "Is it OK for Kids" or something. Here, they listed absolutely everything remotely questionable, including smoking, drinking, women being hurt, and car accidents that was in the movie. While it may be useful to some people who want to shield themselves (or their children) from the dreaded on-screen-second-hand-smoke, it should not be a condition that determines a film's rating. "Uh oh! Jack asked to 'Bum a smoke' in Titanic! We have to give it an R!!" What's next? Going back and adding ratings reasons for films that "Contain images of the World Trade Center" Wait! No! I don't want to give anyone any ideas. Gordon -- I've often wondered about places that don't allow pipe or cigar smoking. My mom's friend smoked a pipe, and I found it to be a lot less irritating to be around than cigarettes. =TMP=
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Bobby Henderson
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 11-14-2002 09:55 PM
I think cigarette smoking is a filthy, disgusting habit. I certainly applaud any laws banning smoking in restaurants and other indoor-public places. I would even greatly enjoy it if smoking were banned in night clubs.But it serves no purpose to tag a movie with an R-rating or special warning just because cigarette smoking is involved. Also, do the proponents of this rule know what kind of effect it will have? I strongly doubt it. Many people want to discourage teen smoking. Teenagers have more smoke belching out of their heads than the smoke stacks of a steel mill. Teens think smoking is cool, primarily because they are not supposed to do it. It is rebellious behavior. What will happen by plastering new "smoking warnings" on movies? More teens will smoke. This is just like those Parental Advisory stickers on music CDs with foul language and lurid content. That's like the quality seal of approval for many teens. They're listening to the "tough" music then. Hell, I remember when Tipper Gore was addressing a senate subcommittee on behalf of the PMRC. She held up the W.A.S.P. 12" album single "Animal: I F**k like a Beast". The cover art featured a blood-drenched fellow wearning a cod-piece equipped with a circular saw blade. My reaction to that (keep in mind I was like 16 at the time) was to run out and buy a copy. If people want to discourage smoking, particularly among teens, they have to find ways to embarrass the living shit out of teens who smoke. Insult them. Ridicule them. Make them feel like they have been accused of not bathing in a week or brushing their teeth at all in the last year. Tell them they stink like shit. If teenagers can't score any cool points for smoking they might not do it. But just telling them "no, you can't smoke" is going to make them want to do it even more.
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