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Author Topic: Microsoft Releasing Windows Source Code John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-20-2003 03:08 PM                        And Russia gets the first look! http://www.eetimes.com/sys/news/OEG20030116S0058 http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2003/01/16/002.html http://www.netsurfer.gr/article.php?sid=283 http://access.globalknowledge.com/article.asp?ID=4565  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 01-20-2003 06:09 PM                    In the interest of disclosing trade secrets (not!) I'll let you guess what these are the formulae for: Yellow Chlorazol Brilliant Yellow 3G 200 2.00 gm Chlorazol Fast Orange ER. 180 0.25 gm Acetic Acid 28% 10 cc Water to make 1000 cc Cyan Disulphine Green B. 150 0.25 gm Solway Celestol B. 250 1.25 gm Lissamine Green B. 200 0.40 gm Acetic Acid 28% 30 cc Water to make 1000 cc Magenta Chlorazol Fast Pink BK. 180 3.60 gm Chlorazol Fast Red BK 170 0.45 gm Benzo Violet R 0.50 gm Acetic Acid 28% 10 cc Water to make 1000 cc  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-20-2003 08:45 PM                     I know what they are....I've seen that book too as you know......Was it finally returned to that important access point that all Film-Techers could also travel to and read in absolute amazement.....? I remember you saying that for a long time that it was missing!! P.S. John, I like that link to the Moscow Times....Interesting! I'm also really sure that the Russians did not have the above formula..... Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 01-20-2003 09:01 PM                    The computer reports it as "on shelf." I don't recall it ever being missing but I do recall that around the time I showed it to you it contained a slip of paper I had left in it a dozen years before.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-20-2003 10:19 PM                        Steve Kraus wrote: "I'll let you guess what these are the formulae for". I'd guess an early "generic" formula for the dyes used in dye transfer printing, or perhaps from a patent.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 01-20-2003 11:48 PM                    Yes, Technicolor imbibition dyes, early English version.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 01-21-2003 02:27 AM                        I'm surprised those dyes have turned out to be so stable, given the concentration of acetic acid in them. Together with the nitric acid in the bases of early IB prints and then 28% acetic in each of the dyes, I'd have expected it to attack the pigments and cause significant fading. But in fact the colours tend to keep their contrast and density at least until nitrate base decomposition makes an element unusable. The EE Times has the key to the Microsoft initiative, IMHO - Big Bad Bill is scared witless that the Windows combination of widely-hacked security holes, a closed-source product and an increasibly viable open-source alternative (i.e. Linux) which has already established a significant market share in the server market and is now breaking into the PC/workstation market in user-friendly proprietary versions will seriously diminish the public-sector use of Windows.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 01-21-2003 02:52 AM                     I never believed Microsoft had a "back door" built into their operating systems to "spy on their users." However, the high end of operating systems (Windows ME and above) for the PC is powerful enough to see what you have for operating systems (if any) on the primary bus or the secondary bus, even though they are "not installed" in the system BIOS. I also understand from a computer guru that the CPU serial number is detected by the XP operating systems even though it is disabled through the system bios. In addition to that, I discovered that Win 2000 does not like enviroment changes unless the CPU and the main board is in the same basic class by manufacturers. Another thing I was told was that if you try to cross over to a different main board, XP will not run because the CPU serial numbers are not the same. Something else I read in technology....just because you format a drive, you think it is "safe" and does not contain sensitive information that can be retrieved, you guessed wrong! There is software that can tell what was on that drive. The article addresses two layers, and suggests that you might be safe if you re-write over the entire drive with "O's" a couple of times. However, I had a computer guru tell me that some software can go as deep as 20 layers to find out what was on the drive. So to be safe, stay off the sleezy web sites, keep your credit card numbers out of your computer, as well as personal information you don't want broadcasted to the entire world. I edited this to shorten it up to make more sense. [ 01-21-2003, 04:28 AM: Message edited by: Paul G. Thompson ]  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-21-2003 04:21 AM                     Leo, Its also interesting that the British dyes used in I.B. Technicolor were quite different from the U.S. dyes. I suppose they were supposed to be equivelent but thye were obviously not. Perhaps whymost of the British made I.B. look far superior to ours. Perhaps Steve might have that page to post here..... Steve, I remember that note!! I guess you are about the ony one that checks that book out!! Mark @ CLACO www.clacoequipment.com  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 01-21-2003 04:23 AM                        If these inbuilt Windows back doors do exist, then Microsoft don't make them widely available even to the authorities. The trial of someone accused of downloading child pornography over here a few months ago was told that the police could not forensically examine his hard disc simply because he'd used the file encryption system built into Windows 2000 and refused to divulge his key or password.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 01-21-2003 04:34 AM                     Leo, I understand Windows 2000 is very hard to crack into, especially if you install the special encrypted file that comes with the OS. However, I can't help but believe that even if Microsoft is is smart enough to make it that tough, there are some that are just as smart that can hack into it and get the info they want. I understand that XP home addition was a disaster for security. I don't know if XP pro is any better. It might be, but the chances of me using any XP product is zero. I don't monkey around on porno sites, and I don't use any credit card numbers in my machines, anyway. So I am not overly concerned.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-21-2003 04:37 AM                        Although Windows 2000 is the most secure Microsoft workstation OS, if you have physical access to the media, there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to read the data. Even harddrives with OS partitions can be dropped into another computer where all rights can be assumed by the Administrator. Granted it takes a while to process the whole drive, it can be done. Now if a third part app, was used to encrypt data, that would be another story. Back when we had copies of Windows NT 4 source at the university there was nothing but lots of boring code. No secret 'backdoors'. Heck, when the frontdoor is made of cardboard, who needs a backdoor?  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 01-21-2003 04:40 AM                     Daryl, I think the front doors of 95 and 98 (maybe ME, too) was made of toilet paper. As some of us know, some high-end software use dongles on the parallel port. I have not heard of anyone cracking them yet, but I am sure it can be done. If a human made it, another human can eventually screw it up or figure it out. As an example, How did the ancient Egyptians go about erecting their obelisks cut from one block of stone and weighing hundreds of tons? There is one good theory, but as Steve Guttag pointed out, it may not be true. If this be the case, we have not yet solved a mystery of technology that was used several thousand years ago.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-21-2003 04:55 AM                        Dongles, ha! If you analyze them long enough you can figure them out without knowing what they actually do. If you tear them apart, there are some you can build yourself with the help of an EEPROM burner or PLC programmer. If you don't like hardware (average software engineer for ya! ) you can always decompile the software and 'modify' the appropriate code. The reason I don't like this method, is that the 'crack' ends up on the net for all the little kiddies to download, spoiling the fun for all of us who have enhaled to much lead.  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 01-21-2003 04:57 AM                     Hmmm...interesting.....  |  IP: Logged

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