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Paul G. Thompson
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I might be in need of a good rack mounted digital processor that has a big enough buffer to delay audio by one to 5 seconds. Can anyone provide some recommendations?

I need something that is reasonable in price and reliability, and yet produce broadcast quality sound.

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Brad Miller
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You mean just a digital delay and nothing more? (Output of just the delayed audio, not a "mix" of the original and delayed.)

I've been looking for that too.

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Chris Markiewicz
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TC Electronic Has a model D22 2-in 2-out digital delay designed for broadcast work; up to 2600ms delay on each channel. Most pro-audio signal processors include digital delay functions. Try Markertek or Broadcast Supply Warehouse.for other options.
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Paul G. Thompson
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Brad, yes - just delay only. No other options needed in our proposed application.

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Steve Guttag
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1-5 seconds eh? The RANE RPM-26Z will do from 1-5 seconds but probably isn't what you want. Have your considered one of those old magnetic tape loops [Wink]

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David Stambaugh
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TimeCache. Delays up to 15 secs. Requires their proprietary rack-mount host - probably not cheap.

Eventide BD500 Broadcast Profanity Delay Delays up to 8 secs. Rack mount. Looks like around $3300, less for B-Stock? (see next link).

Broadcast Supply Warehouse has several models.

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Paul G. Thompson
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Steve said:
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Have your considered one of those old magnetic tape loops...
Yes, I did. However, we don't use reel-to-reel anymore. We have only two operational magnetic tape machines remaining, and they are just sitting there collecting dust. The delay between "source" and "pb" is only about .25 seconds at 3.75 ips. Not long enough of a delay in case we have to bump it off the air. [Frown]

David, I checked out your links...man! that stuff is pricey.....I doubt if we would spring for that because what we might do is still in its planning stages, and we don't even know if it is going to work with our listening audience.

What we want to do is have enough time ot override an abusive or intimidating phone call before it is aired to the public. We don't trust the type of language they might shout over the phone, and we certainly don't want that type of language being broadcasted from our stations.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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You can do the same thing with a solid state recorder/player otherwise known as a digital brodcast delay. There are a bunch of them out there...here is a link to one type.
http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/1999/D22.html
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Paul G. Thompson
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Mark, that fits the ticket. Now I have to find out what the damned thing costs...

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David Stambaugh
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Looks like the TC Electronic D22 lists for $2000, street price is around $1550. Here's a seller: Bayview Pro Audio Only 2600 milliseconds max delay though.

That unit was introduced in 1999. Maybe there's some used ones floating around cheaper?

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Paul G. Thompson
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David, I hope so.... [Smile]

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Michael Schaffer
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Take a look at Klark Teknik digital delays (www.klarkteknik.com).

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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You might want to look at the Alesis MidiVerb 4. I think I only paid about $500CDN for my MidiVerb II. I used to use it all the time for rear speaker delays for live shows it worked really well.

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William Hooper
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Are you looking for a broadcast/profanity delay? Have you checked eBay?

There's an Australian Eventide up now: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3004566369&category=3319

I saw a Symetrix 610 on eBay about a year ago.

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Paul G. Thompson
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Thank you, gentlemen. Looks like we might settle for an "Air Tools Model No. 6100" which was built by Symetrix. BSW handles that line.. [Smile]

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