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Topic: Over Unity Device Discovered?
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Jeffry L. Johnson
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
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posted 02-03-2003 01:54 PM
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May 10, 2001
wired.com
"Ooo-Wee-Ooo Fans Come to D.C."
by Declan McCullagh
McCullagh covers the Disclosure Project conference held at the National
Press Club in Washington, DC. Founder Steven Greer claimed that his group
has identified "several hundred witnesses throughout the world " eager to
testify before Congress about their encounters with alien beings or
spacecraft. McCullagh quotes CSICOP PR Director Kevin Christopher, and Sr.
Research Fellow Joe Nickell about the utter lack of any hard evidence and
the shamless pseudoscience and speculation employed by Greer and others.
more at URL here
But if the truth isn't to be found at Roswell, it's still "out there" somewhere, and the Center for the Study of Extraterrestrial Intelligence, CSETI (not to be confused with scientific SETI organizations), is determined to find it. Steven Greer, M.D., the head of that organization, was in Washington, D.C., in April to call for congressional hearings into the alleged government coverup. This is a group that claims on its Web page (http://www.cseti.com) to have "successfully established contact with extraterrestrial spacecraft in the United States, England, Mexico, and Belgium." They shine a beacon or strobe at lights in the sky believed to be UFOs; if the object flashes or twinkles in apparent response, that's "contact."
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The charismatic and controversial UFOlogist Steven Greer (see this column, September/October 1999) recently revealed on his Web site http://www.cseti.org the real reason for the death of Marilyn Monroe. Greer claims to have an "authenticated CIA wiretap document of Marilyn Monroe signed by legendary Counter-Intelligence Chief James Angleton the day before her death detailing that she knew about the crashed spacecraft and dead bodies from Jack Kennedy and was planning a Press Conference to tell all-and more!" Unfortunately, if you want to read the full story, you'll have to buy Greer's new book.
What's New
3. UFOS: IT TAKES A LOT OF ENERGY TO GET HERE FROM ANDROMEDA.
The news in Washington is not always depressing. This week, for example, Project Disclosure held a press conference at the National Press Club to expose the government's cover-up of the truth about UFOs. This could have important benefits; Steven Greer, director of the project, explained that aliens have a source of energy that could supply our energy needs, save the environment and lead to world peace. (A lot of humans make the same claim.) What wasn't explained is why aliens travel this far just to grope the genitals of Iowa farmers, or steal socks from the dryer. The "hard evidence" that was promised turned out to be things like a pencil drawing on cardboard of an alien spacecraft. Some 20 retired government and military were witnesses at the press conference, and dozens of other expert witnesses are listed in Project Disclosure's web site, http://www.disclosureproject.org. Alas, actual names are not always used, perhaps to shield these brave souls from government harassment, but it's pretty thin cover. "Dr. KKK," for example, is described as "the editor of Infinite Energy."
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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 02-03-2003 03:33 PM
Yes, it's funny how people spin facts around sometimes. The National Press Club press conference was the largest live web cast in history. It was also intercepted and tampered with according to the satellite company doing the broadcast. Very interesting. The details are on their web site. The "retired govt whitnesses" mentioned included a few astronauts, a 6 year division chief of accidents and investigations for the FAA, brigadeer generals, seargeants, lieutenants, colonels etc from every armed forces service some of whom were in charge of nuclear weapons, and yes, NASA insiders who are afraid for their lives, and therefore are keeping their names confidential for now. All got on stage in front of the world press to tell their story and then say "I am willing to testify under oath in front of Congress that everything I have told you is true." If you care to see it, the press conference is online. It's quite gripping.
And as far as... quote:
They shine a beacon or strobe at lights in the sky believed to be UFOs; if the object flashes or twinkles in apparent response, that's "contact."
...that's a wild over simplification. If we want to discuss CSETI research techniques, that's fine. I've been in the field with them.
It's certainly easy to bash Dr. Greer given all the bogus bad press. I just thought the concept of over unity would be an interesting and off the wall topic given how many of us are techno-weenies. Any quantum physicist wanna-bes out here? ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Jeffry L. Johnson
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posted 02-03-2003 04:27 PM
Eric's History of Perpetual Motion and Free Energy Machines
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May 11, 2001. ABCNews.com has a story today about the Disclosure Project (see below), complete with photo from an "alien" on display in Roswell. James Oberg, an ABCNEWS space consultant and retired NASA engineer, is quoted as saying that Stephen Greer, who is orchestrating the Disclosure Project, has long argued "there's this bizarre theory that there is a worldwide real X-file cabal that is using UFO technology....People see strange things they can't understand, and that can't be explained either then or in hindsight, and it's good to keep documenting these, because often the mysterious sightings are things of interest, to military intelligence or even to science....Often, I've seen people jump to conclusions about what they saw, because, after all, to have been scared by a distant fireball can be embarrassing but to have encountered an alien space ship is more exciting."
The WashingtonPost.com also covered the event. The article, authored by Joel Achenbach, begins
A group of people who believe in UFOs held a news conference yesterday morning that established beyond the shadow of a doubt -- that reached levels of credibility so high as to constitute actual proof -- that there really do exist people who believe in UFOs.
Achenbach says of Greer that
He arranged an impressive venue, the main ballroom of the National Press Club. Upward of a hundred people were there, along with more than a dozen TV cameras. At a long table up front sat 20 witnesses, most of them gray-haired men who'd served in the military.
The event was "old-fashioned," according to Achenbach, since it involved mostly a discussion of aerial anomalies and nothing about abductions or reproductive experimentation.
Achenbach noted a couple of items that are likely to hinder this project from being very successful: (1) Greer's insistence that the U.S. government possesses alien technology that could provide unlimited energy and has helped them build vehicles that travel faster than the speed of light, and (2) testimony from people like Clifford Stone, a retired Army sergeant, who claims that there are 57 alien species and he's seen them all, dead and alive.
May 9, 2001. Today was supposed to be the big day for UFOlogists but so far the great Disclosure Project hasn't ruffled any feathers. A group of UFOers, led by Dr. Stephen Greer, a founder of CSETI who gave up his position in medicine to pursue aliens full-time, has lined up several hundred motley "witnesses" to pour forth their heartfelt testimonies regarding various experiences with UFOs, aliens and government agencies. For those who missed the earthshaking press conference, videos of the event are for sale and a couple of clips viewable on Real Audio are available online.
As far as I can tell, the only thing new about this project is that Greer has brought disparate elements together, no doubt thinking that the sheer quantity of the testimony and quality of the witnesses should convince even the most hardened skeptic. The alleged hope is to get enough popular support to force Congress to hold hearings on the issue. Each of the those who testified asserted that he or she is ready to testify before Congress that what they say is the truth. I say that this is an alleged hope because it seems unlikely that Greer really thinks Congress is going to let several hundred people testify before Congress that the United States Government has conspired to keep the truth about aliens and UFOs from the American public for over fifty years. Now, if ex-President Clinton is accused of having had sex with an alien, Congress might agree to the hearings, but barring anything of that nature, these testimonies are likely to remain right where they are.
None of the testimony is new, nor is anyone holding a smoking gun. These are just hundreds of people who have had various experiences they believe are suspicious and have interpreted as evidence of an alien presence. (They are not, however, the stereotypical country bumpkins walking the dog near swamp gas on the bayou.) The group claims that one of its goals is to stop the building of weapons systems to be used in space. I applaud them for that, but in a world where the daily news brings reports of the army's new lead-free bullets for a cleaner environment and executions that are carried out with dignity and professionalism, I have to be a bit skeptical of the chances of their success.
I looked for news reports on the Disclosure Project's big press conference, but found nothing on the websites for ABC, CBS, or NandoTimes. Even Fox News seems to have passed on this one. Maybe the networks were too busy following up on Tina Wesson and Survivor stories to be bothered with a mere UFO/alien press conference.
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