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Topic: She wants me to move the toilet 6 inches to the RIGHT!
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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-03-2003 09:02 AM
Do you remember when I was talking about fixing up the bathroom in my old house? Well, as we were working we noticed a couple of odd things.
Notable of which is that the commode in the upstairs bathroom is 6 inches too far to the left. The "rider" will have his/her left shoulder practically right up against the wall. It's a nice feature for when you come home drunk, late at night. You don't have to worry about balancing yourself while on the pot but for everyday use, it's a bit annoying.
So, the wife suggests to me that we should MOVE the toidy a little to the right, making it easier for people to use. I'm trying to tell her, "No. You don't REALLY want to DO that." I tried showing her the cast iron plumbing "stack" that goes up through the walls from the basement but to no avail. Now that she sees the joints in the pipes she thinks they are like "Tinkertoys" that you just snap together in any shape you want. There's no understanding about the fact that these pipes were soldered together with caulking, lead and a blowtorch more than 50 years ago.
I tried to tell her that this little manuver is liable to cost $1,000 or more. I said that it would be "nice" to have the crapper moved 6 inches to the right but it wouldn't be $1,000-nice.
Help me out... PLEASE!
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Randy Stankey
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posted 05-03-2003 10:16 PM
John, My suggestion was to twist the toilet about 45 degrees clockwise. If this is done, a corner toilet MAY actually be an option. We're having somebody come over Monday evening to look at the situation and tell us how much this deal is likely to cost. I think that moving or otherwise repositioning the toilet is a good idea but I don't think it's worth the money that's we'd likely have to sink into it!
We'd be literally flusing our money dow-... Oh, never mind...
This bathroom probably used to be the closet for the upstairs "spare" bedroom. It's 35 inches wide and 8 feet long. The left side wall (viewed from the doorway) is bent as if the room used to be square but had the corner clipped off. The commode is at the extreme end of the room. There is a sink two feet in front of the sitter.
To me, it's obvious that the house was walled up and the plumbing was roughed in when somebody decided that there should be a bathroom upstairs. (A good thing, actually.) They took the closet space from the bedroom and made it into its own room. I'm sure the soil pipe was put in right about that time. If that bent wall was left straight, the commode would have been smack-dab in the middle of the room. However, if it was left that way the room would only have been, maybe 2-1/2 feet wide. Certainly not wide enough to get MY fat ass in there! The solution was to move the wall a 1/2 foot. BUT... when that was done they found that it would bisect the window opening for the afformentioned bedroom. Thus, the bent wall and the offset commode.
I know where the stack goes up through the house to get to the second floor. There is where ANOTHER compromise was made. A "pillar" was built out of the corner of the wall in the bathroom downstairs to hide the pipe. As a matter of fact, the DOWNSTAIRS toilet is offset by about 6 inches too! It appears to me that the downstairs commode would have been in the center of the space but for the pipe they had to add in for the one upstairs.
This is where stuff gets really hairy! If that soil pipe has to be moved, we're going to have to tear out the walls in the downstairs bathroom as well as the floor in the upstairs! All I can hope for is that there is enough pipe going horizontally from the top of the stack to the closet flange. If there is, hopefully, all that has to be done is to tear out the floor in the upstairs bathroom, cut off the horizontal pipe and splice-in an extra length of PVC to move the commode.
All of this presupposes that there is no rule about the removal of old cast iron plumbing stacks. Normally, I would think a Neoprene sleeve would be good enough to join the old pipe to the new. However, if there is an ordinance that has something to the effect of a "grandfather clause" we'd be screwed.
Please, God! Let there be an ordinance!
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