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Author Topic: She wants me to move the toilet 6 inches to the RIGHT! Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-03-2003 09:02 AM                     Do you remember when I was talking about fixing up the bathroom in my old house? Well, as we were working we noticed a couple of odd things. Notable of which is that the commode in the upstairs bathroom is 6 inches too far to the left. The "rider" will have his/her left shoulder practically right up against the wall. It's a nice feature for when you come home drunk, late at night. You don't have to worry about balancing yourself while on the pot but for everyday use, it's a bit annoying. So, the wife suggests to me that we should MOVE the toidy a little to the right, making it easier for people to use. I'm trying to tell her, "No. You don't REALLY want to DO that." I tried showing her the cast iron plumbing "stack" that goes up through the walls from the basement but to no avail. Now that she sees the joints in the pipes she thinks they are like "Tinkertoys" that you just snap together in any shape you want. There's no understanding about the fact that these pipes were soldered together with caulking, lead and a blowtorch more than 50 years ago. I tried to tell her that this little manuver is liable to cost $1,000 or more. I said that it would be "nice" to have the crapper moved 6 inches to the right but it wouldn't be $1,000-nice. Help me out... PLEASE!  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-03-2003 10:31 AM                     You should do like most theaters that have offset toilets and make it a point to put your toilet paper dispenser also on the left and as low as possible. There's nothing quite as enjoyable as having 2 feet below the roll of paper so you get to bend over at an awkward angle while simultaneously trying to keep the paper off of the floor as you are unrolling it. Extra points go to dispensers that have so much tension that the paper keeps ripping, or alternatively dispensers that appear to have the roll mounted on bearings. Yeah I know that doesn't really help, but that's an awful big undertaking just to move the toilet. Have you considered moving the offending wall instead? It just might be easier.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 05-03-2003 10:39 AM                        Think up some local authority health and safety regulation why it can't be done. Pity you're not on this side of the pond - the European Union probably does have a law that stops you from moving a loo! But how about 'sorry dear, the State of Pennsylvania Hygiene Equipment Public Health Ordinance no, 3742 states that a toilet bowl cannot be situated more than X inches from a weight-bearing wall, because of potential contamination issues arising from its use in an open space.' Best I can do, I'm afraid...  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 05-03-2003 12:06 PM                    I guess you will just have to move the wall six inches.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-03-2003 12:17 PM                     Now she says that I have to move the wall by 6 inches!  |  IP: Logged Rachel Craven Madam Moderator Posts: 2190 From: Pensacola, FL Registered: Dec 2000 posted 05-03-2003 12:52 PM                     Haha, thats why us women have you guys!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-03-2003 05:23 PM                        I wouldn't move anything unless it was ultra-ridiculous like 1 inch or something.  |  IP: Logged Ian Price Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1714 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-03-2003 07:25 PM                     Moving the toilet 6" is an invitation to totally remodel the bathroom. So ask her to design the bath of her dreams. Then price it out. Have her then make all the compromises to get the cost down to a reasonable level. She might just say 'fuck it, I'll live with the toilet.'  |  IP: Logged Per Hauberg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 883 From: Malling, Denmark Registered: Jul 2000 posted 05-03-2003 08:10 PM                        A bachelor's life is sure easy ! p.  |  IP: Logged John Lasher Master Film Handler Posts: 493 From: Newark, DE Registered: Aug 2001 posted 05-03-2003 09:55 PM                        My mom suggests a corner toilet.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-03-2003 10:16 PM                     John, My suggestion was to twist the toilet about 45 degrees clockwise. If this is done, a corner toilet MAY actually be an option. We're having somebody come over Monday evening to look at the situation and tell us how much this deal is likely to cost. I think that moving or otherwise repositioning the toilet is a good idea but I don't think it's worth the money that's we'd likely have to sink into it! We'd be literally flusing our money dow-... Oh, never mind... This bathroom probably used to be the closet for the upstairs "spare" bedroom. It's 35 inches wide and 8 feet long. The left side wall (viewed from the doorway) is bent as if the room used to be square but had the corner clipped off. The commode is at the extreme end of the room. There is a sink two feet in front of the sitter. To me, it's obvious that the house was walled up and the plumbing was roughed in when somebody decided that there should be a bathroom upstairs. (A good thing, actually.) They took the closet space from the bedroom and made it into its own room. I'm sure the soil pipe was put in right about that time. If that bent wall was left straight, the commode would have been smack-dab in the middle of the room. However, if it was left that way the room would only have been, maybe 2-1/2 feet wide. Certainly not wide enough to get MY fat ass in there! The solution was to move the wall a 1/2 foot. BUT... when that was done they found that it would bisect the window opening for the afformentioned bedroom. Thus, the bent wall and the offset commode. I know where the stack goes up through the house to get to the second floor. There is where ANOTHER compromise was made. A "pillar" was built out of the corner of the wall in the bathroom downstairs to hide the pipe. As a matter of fact, the DOWNSTAIRS toilet is offset by about 6 inches too! It appears to me that the downstairs commode would have been in the center of the space but for the pipe they had to add in for the one upstairs. This is where stuff gets really hairy! If that soil pipe has to be moved, we're going to have to tear out the walls in the downstairs bathroom as well as the floor in the upstairs! All I can hope for is that there is enough pipe going horizontally from the top of the stack to the closet flange. If there is, hopefully, all that has to be done is to tear out the floor in the upstairs bathroom, cut off the horizontal pipe and splice-in an extra length of PVC to move the commode. All of this presupposes that there is no rule about the removal of old cast iron plumbing stacks. Normally, I would think a Neoprene sleeve would be good enough to join the old pipe to the new. However, if there is an ordinance that has something to the effect of a "grandfather clause" we'd be screwed. Please, God! Let there be an ordinance!  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-03-2003 11:10 PM                  Forget all the hastle... Just do as many places in the Far East.... remove the toilet and squat over the pipe. Make sure to supply a garden hose for the "washdown" >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Peter Berrett Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 602 From: Victoria, Australia Registered: Nov 2000 posted 05-04-2003 06:32 AM                        Randy Phil beat me to it with this idea. Firstly, install a squat toilet, then leave it disgustingly dirty (I won't describe how). If your wife is anything like mine, she'll be so disgusted she will go downstairs to the loo and won't care where the upstairs toilet is located. If your wife asks why you have installed a squat toilet, say that your Doctor advised you to do it for health reasons cheers Peter  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 05-04-2003 04:54 PM                     Just get a bucket that can be moved. When it is full, just wait for a politican walk by and heave it's contents out the window.  |  IP: Logged Lance C. McFetridge Expert Film Handler Posts: 135 From: Penn Yan, New York Registered: Jul 99 posted 05-04-2003 05:31 PM                     If you really must use a Fernco Coupling, this site may help. If you are going to the expense of a new floor, it may be rather easy to move it 6 inches provided that the floor joist and any beams are not in that area. http://www.fernco.com/noframes/coupchrt.html lance  |  IP: Logged

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