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Topic: Attitudes Ease Towards Medical Marijuana
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man
Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 05-23-2003 03:14 PM
Despite efforts by the White House to crack down on marijuana, lawmakers in states across the nation have shown a willingness to separate marijuana from other banned drugs because of claims that it can be used for medicinal purposes.
OK, I don't have a problem with that. I think it is a good thing if that is what it would be used for.
Sometimes I think the reason why it has been illegal in the first place is because it grows literally anywhere and the authorities do not know to "Tax" it.
Although I don't use illegal drugs of any kind, I must say this:
1. Prescription drugs of any kind can be extremely dangerous if used improperly.
2. Over-the-counter medications can be equally dangerous if used improperly. Just because you can buy them at a pharmacy does not make them safe by any means.
3. Drugs of any kind should not be used unless they are needed for health reasons.
4. Excessive beer and booze is bad for you. Notice I said excessive. It has been medically proven that a glass of wine, a shot of whiskey, or two 12-ounce cans of beer has great medical benefits. (OK, now you can say BS to that if you would like....but there has been two cases where I have been in the hospital for a couple of serious problems, and in-house prescription by the doctor was *you guessed it* was two cans of beer a day. They even asked me what kind I preferred...)
Tobacco products are very bad for you. But they will probably never become illegal...because of "Tax" collected on them. Same holds true for alcoholic beverages.
As far as I know, marijuana does basically the same thing booze will do....it makes you goofy. However, there are two major differences.
1. Alcoholic beverages can become physically addictive, marijuana does not.
2. If one drinks too much booze, that individual could pass out. If one smokes too much "Bud", they get goofier and usually don't pass out. That's the problem! They can become so goofy that they are nothing but a "hunk of meat" and will probably kill themselves or somebody else by trying to do some stupid thing that nobody in their right mind would even think of even if they were blasted on booze.
I support legislation of allowing marijuana for medical purposes. But that is all I will support about it. If one chooses to smoke pot for recreational purposes, then they should be dealt with the same way a person is who becomes a DUI or domestic violence case.
What really frosts me is when organizations will pass out "free needles to shoot up" with in public and completely ignore them.
One block down the street, they will arrest someone for drinking a bottle of beer in public.
What's the difference? Plenty. The guy or gal who drinks in a public has the money to pay the fine. The unfortunate sole shooting up in public does not have the money to pay a fine, and it would cost too much to rehabilitate them.
You figure. Hey, if anyone thinks I am wrong about my assessment of the situation, please tell me. I am always interested in hearing and listening to someone else's opinion.
If you smoke pot for recreational purposes, don't smoke it around me. If you can honor that, I won't smoke cigarettes around you.
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Dave Williams
Wet nipple scene
Posts: 1836
From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-24-2003 03:45 PM
Thanks for the support Paul. At least I am mostly at home now, instead of spending so much time in the hospital. Let's just say I have a very long journey in front of me. I am suffering from a very painful disorder called Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy, which causes the Sympathetic nervous system to literally attack the body with pain. With no cure, the only treatment is medication and motion, mobility, excersize and never stopping. It is excrutiating to live with, but the drugs help a great deal, and I even can play a few minutes of basketball a week now, so all is not bad. Sometimes I can walk, sometimes I am confined to a wheelchair, it varies, kind of like life does!
Upon Utah Jazz frontman John Stocktons retirement, he said "true that I haven't won a championship, but the journey was well worth the effort".
I too live by that credo. I never give up. Six months ago they were going to take my foot off, but I refused and kept at the treatments, and now it has had some recovery and the muscular structure is healing, so I get to keep it. You just never assume that the end is the end. The journey is always worth the price of admission.
Oh yeah, this was supposed to be about POT!!! With all these drugs I tend to wander.. A LOT!
I too also despise smoking. Smoking pot is in fact very nasty, but the effects it has for people like myself are amazing. But because it is illegal, I do not have any "legal" access to it.
If I did, I would probably rather do that than all this other stuff I have to take. Then again, I may not. At least I would have the option.
Dave
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Thomas Procyk
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1842
From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA
Registered: Feb 2002
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posted 05-25-2003 01:50 AM
It's interesting to see the people condemning marijuana for its supposed effects on people, and calling for this that and the other thing to be done with it and those who use it have admitted to never using it even once! Those who have tried it either think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, or found it was not the thing for them and moved on, but not called for the incarceration of all who use it.
quote: If one drinks too much booze, that individual could pass out. If one smokes too much "Bud", they get goofier and usually don't pass out.
You're right, Paul. It should be noted that if one drinks too much booze, one can also DIE from alcohol poisoning. There has not been a single documented case of anyone dying from using too much marijuana.
quote: They can become so goofy that they are nothing but a "hunk of meat" and will probably kill themselves or somebody else by trying to do some stupid thing that nobody in their right mind would even think of even if they were blasted on booze.
Okay, this intrigues me. Being a college student, I've been to my fair share of parties. There's always the drinkers and the smokers. By the end of the night, the drinkers are usually on the roof seeing what they could throw down and hit. The smokers are usually safe indoors watching cartoons and eating cookie dough ice cream. So unless you've seen someone "act goofy" to the point of inflicting harm on someone, based on personal experience I really don't see the logic in your statement. The only time I saw someone being attacked by a person who was high to the point of insanity was in "Reefer Madness".
quote: I probably would support legalizing marijuana for recreational use just like booze if it didn't stink so damn much and didn't require smoking.
Joe, two words: SPACE CAKES!
quote: The main reason why most states and the federal government continue to keep MJ outlawed is they claim it is a "gateway drug." They do have a valid point with this.
Actually Bobby, there was a study that showed most teenagers tried alcohol and cigarettes before they even went on to marijuana. I would safely say that the booze and cigs weren't enough, so they moved up a notch. So technically, nicotine and alcohol are gateway drugs, they're just legal gateway drugs. And the REAL reason the federal government keeps it illegal is because too many people are making too much money off of the "Drug War"
quote: Most people that support legalization have something to gain from it (ie; they want to smoke it)
While that may be very true for most, the main reason many of us support legalization is because of the lives that have been destroyed and the families that have been torn apart, the billions (yes, BILLIONS) of dollars lost each year and the overwhelming crime this "Drug War" has caused and continues to do so. As long as everyone protects themselves from the lies of the government, there will be progress.
quote: Interesting as the US is now interferring in the canadian lawmaking process that would decriminalize it
The US? Interferring in another country's affairs?!? Surely you MUST be mistaken!
And if marijuana should be kept illegal, what about hemp? You can't get high from that... Oh yeah, that's right. The cotton, petrolium, and lumber companies keep the politician's pockets stuffed too tight for them to even consider it. *SIGH*
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