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Author Topic: The Adventures of Robin Hood (1938, restored) Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 05-29-2003 07:15 PM                    Has anyone seen this? It's billed as a digital restoration. Just wondering if it's as super wonderful as the Singin' In the Rain restoration.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-30-2003 02:00 AM                     If it wasn't restored by Bob harris then it hasn't been restored!! Mark  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-30-2003 02:08 AM                  Also, who cares...I don't! What a POS movie! I can think of many other more owrthy of restoration. >>> PHil  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 05-30-2003 03:10 AM                        There were new prints released in the UK by the British Film Institute in '98 or '99. Very patchy, I thought, and it looked like differential shrinkage between the Y, C and M o-negs had caused varying degrees of misregistration in places. Individual sections ranged from brilliantly sharp and dense to a blurry mess. So I would have thought that this film is an ideal candidate for the digital treatment, given that presumably you can now just scan the three strips individually and have the computer register them.  |  IP: Logged Bernard Tonks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 619 From: Cranleigh, Surrey, England Registered: Apr 2001 posted 05-30-2003 04:38 AM                     Talking of film restoration, yesterday I looked for Film-Tech on AOL, and accidently came across an interesting web site: Film Technology Company. Vintage restoration 8mm - 35mm picture & sound. www.filmtech.com  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 05-30-2003 08:12 AM                    Mark, I hold Bob Harris' work in the very highest regard, especially his emphasis that a film restoration must result in printable film elements. But he is not the only one who does this work and if you ever have the opportunity to see the Singin' restoration you should check it out as the resulting film prints (the only end product that matters!) are superb. The sharpness was incredible. I made a point of walking up to the Virginia Theatre's huge screen while test running a reel at Ebertfest (having previously run a different print a couple times at my screening room) and I could not detect any digital artifacts, just the random film grain one would expect. And the very saturated color seemed to be a good approximation of IB Tech--at a sharpness level that I think the real thing would be hard to match.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-30-2003 09:00 AM                        Agreed that the SITR restoration looked and sounded great. Warners made new prints of Robin Hood in 1998 for the WB 75th festival that toured around the US. The one that I ran looked about as others have described--not wonderfully sharp and with some mis-registration of the 3-strip elements in some scenes. The sound wasn't especially good, either. I had the good fortune of seeing a nitrate IB print of this a few years ago at the Egyptian during the first IB Tech fest and it looked stunning in every respect. Hopefully it can be restored to its former glory.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 05-30-2003 09:49 AM                        Shouldn't be difficult if the o-neg seps haven't got to stage 2 of the decomposition process yet. I would have thought that it would be a pretty simple software task to register the three scans of each frame and then add the colour. Given that the frames are Academy size (i.e. each outputted pixel on the new prints will be magnified a lot less in projection than for 1:1.85), even 2k scanning should give a pretty good result.  |  IP: Logged Jeff Taylor Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 601 From: Chatham, NJ/East Hampton, NY Registered: Apr 2000 posted 05-30-2003 10:17 AM                     The quality of the SITR restoration is especially gratifying in light of the fact that the 3 strip camera negs perished long ago in a vault fire. Shrunken or not, I'm under the impression that the Robin Hood negs still exist. In fact, UA was churing out some fairly impressive LPP Robin Hood prints in 16 and 35 in the early '80's with incredible saturated colors, although I can only guess how many generations were lost in the pre-print.  |  IP: Logged Fred Georges Master Film Handler Posts: 257 From: Lombard, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2000 posted 06-01-2003 09:07 PM                     Hey Phil, This is the one with Errol Flynn NOT Kevin Costner! (LoL)  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-01-2003 09:27 PM                     Steve, I thnk you mis-read, mis-took, or mis-understood my post. I certainly agree he is the one and only...... Turner and others have done some supposed film restorations using other labs that looked shameful and were a joke. Hence Bob is definately the one and only!! Anyway, I agree with Phil.....The film is a bore! there are far more important things in need of restoration. Mark  |  IP: Logged Fred Georges Master Film Handler Posts: 257 From: Lombard, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2000 posted 06-01-2003 10:27 PM                     "The Adventures of Robin Hood" IMHO is a Technicolor classic that has stood the test of time. The picture ALWAYS made great money for us in rep and in my book that mkes it very good indeed! LoL. The magnificent score by Korngold. The deliciously Fey performance of Claude Raines, the snarling of Basil Rathbone and (at least for me) the Technicolor beauty of Olivia DeHaviland make ol Errol's magnum opus tops in my book. If this film isn't worth all the care the Restorationists art can muster what is? I'll be handling a print of this in about a week and I have an IB to compare it to. I'll report back.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-01-2003 10:34 PM                  Hey Fred, I know... >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-02-2003 05:59 AM                        browsing the new castro theater calendar, i see they claim a "3-strip technicolor restoration with new digital sound". whatever that means, it can't be what it sounds like it means since the technicolor lab is shut down. really fun film though; don't listen to the haters. carl  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 06-02-2003 06:15 AM                  The Castro is a super-cool theatre! I love it! It probably means they took the original 3-strip archive stuff and printed it to a modern tri-pack inter-negative for making restoration prints. BUT! That film still sucks! >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged

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