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Author Topic: First PG-13 Movie Jeff Stuckey Film Handler Posts: 62 From: Oklahoma City, OK, USA Registered: May 2003 posted 08-25-2003 03:19 PM                     Hello everyone. A local radio station had a quiz contest a while ago where they asked listeners "What was the very first movie to receive a PG-13 rating?". Now, I believe that the correct answer is RED DAWN. But, they said it was INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM. How in the world did they get that answer? Wasn't that one just a PG. I can look back on my VHS copy, and that's the rating. This has just been puzzling me. Can you guys back me up on the RED DAWN thing? Or was INDY right in some way? Thanks in advance for all your help!!  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-25-2003 05:30 PM                     I always heard it was INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM. Ratings have been changed over the years to reflect changes in standards. That whole human sacrifice stuff was pretty shocking back then but it's passe today so perhaps they got the rating changed. I recall reading about how Steven Spielberg reacted when POLTERGEIST was going to get an "R" rating and he said "I don't make R-Rated movies" so maybe that could explain why/how TEMPLE OF DOOM got re-rated down to a "PG." Maybe our man Steve is just a "PG" kind of guy? Down here in The Bahamas it was GREMLINS that gave rise to a whole new rating. In that case it was "T" which used to mean "under age 15 not admitted" and that rating was considered to be "the kiss of death" because adults would avoid those movies, thinking that "T" meant it was geared toward a teenage audience....but, of course, a lot of teenagers couldn't see the thing. Now, I've been told that the "T" rating has been relaxed to allow "under age 15 with parent or adult guardian." Note the absence of the word "suggested" like they have in the U.S. Here the ratings are applied and enforced by a governmental committee. It's law.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-25-2003 05:35 PM                        RED DAWN was the first movie to get a PG-13 rating. INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF DOOM and GREMLINS were the movies that inspired the creation of the PG-13 rating. [ 08-25-2003, 08:33 PM: Message edited by: Mike Blakesley ]  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-25-2003 05:37 PM                     That works for me. So are you gonna challenge the radio station now?  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 08-25-2003 06:05 PM                     Red Dawn . . . wasn't that Timothy McVeigh's favorite movie?  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 08-25-2003 06:44 PM                    I will have to look it up but dreamscape either came out a week before or a week after Red Dawn. Temple of doom and gremlins are two films that broke the camels back in reguards to the PG-13 rating. After a quick research dreamscape followed Red Dawn. Red Dawn opened 8-10-84 and dreamscape 0pened on 8-15-84. Temple of doom had the tage in the ads that stated some scenes may be to intense for younger viewers. A tag the was used on Jaws and Return of the Jedi.  |  IP: Logged David Favel Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 764 From: Ashburton, New Zealand Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-25-2003 07:02 PM                     But Snow White was John Gacy's favourite movie.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-26-2003 12:20 PM                     Mike Blakesly is correct. "Red Dawn" was indeed the first PG-13 movie. "Indiana Jones the Temple of Doom" was the main offender that inspired the rating. Had it been any other filmmaker besides Steven Spielberg at the time, the "Temple of Zoom" would have been slapped with an R-rating.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 08-26-2003 03:34 PM                       Someone on the IMDB noted that "Red Dawn" was indeed the first PG-13 picture, but because its release was delayed for several weeks, it wasn't the first PG-13 to reach theatre screens. First NC-17 movie: "Henry and June"  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 08-26-2003 04:18 PM                     quote: Had it been any other filmmaker besides Steven Spielberg at the time, the "Temple of Zoom" would have been slapped with an R-rating. I recall reading about Spielberg becoming irate when POLTERGEIST was initially assigned an R rating. To which, he reportedly stated: "I don't make R movies." This seemed to be enough of an appeal; the film in question was declared PG.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 08-26-2003 06:42 PM                    An interesting Read... Rating System History  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-26-2003 07:14 PM                        If "Poltergeist" originally was supposed to be an R, it must have been edited to get the PG. There's no way that movie in its final form would have ever earned an R. I'll bet they cut out a bit of the part where the guy's face falls off.  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 08-26-2003 08:11 PM                     When the PG-13 rating started, that was also when they changed the rating tags at the end of movies to the white lettering on blue background, instead of the white bar running across the screen with the rating on the right-hand side. I always thought the old ones were odd because the lettering was so small and had a lot of empty screen space, but now that they're gone they look cool when I see them.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-26-2003 09:48 PM                     Speaking of the old style ratings band at the tail end of movies, does anyone else besides me have a copy of the music CD "Rated R" by Queens of the Stone Age? The QOTSA CD cover does a credible job of copying the old style blue ratings band. You have the white stripe across the lower portion of a blue background with the "R" icon at the right end of the band. The difference on the QOTSA cover is the verbiage says "Restricted to Everyone, Everywhere, All The Time." I've got a funny play off the R rating logo on the back window of my pickup truck in high performance cut vinyl. It is a very accurate duplication of the complete R rating mark. But I have changed MPAA logo to have the "have a nice day" happy face instead of a film reel. The verbiage says "off limits to kids under age 17 just to make them scream and cry." That's pretty much how I felt about the R rating when I was a kid. I had to beg my parents to take me to see "Alien."  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 08-26-2003 11:12 PM                       quote: I always thought the old ones were odd because the lettering was so small and had a lot of empty screen space, How's this? And one for R previews... Here's one you never see. And in scope, too!  |  IP: Logged

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