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Manny Knowles
"What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???"

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 - posted 09-22-2003 02:08 PM      Profile for Manny Knowles   Email Manny Knowles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The revised CRAP-coded member photo of John Pytlak looks a little overcompressed, don't ya think?

I hate to be a stickler for quality presentations in a member photo but surely we could expect more from Film-Tech, right?

Or are y'all adding heavy compression to all member photos that originated on film in a sinister attempt to encourage more people to switch to digital cameras?

I want the real story!

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John Pytlak
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If Film-Tech couldn't use the original CAP Code Kodak developed for the MPAA twenty years ago, maybe they should license the new Kodak Invisible Watermarking technology:

Kodak Invisible Watermarking

Kodak Data Embedding Technical Paper

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David Stambaugh
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 - posted 09-22-2003 04:14 PM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
John, I'm sorry for laughing at that, but I can't help it. It looks remarkably like what I've been seeing in some movies lately, whether it's real CAP Code, or some derivative...

-dave [uhoh]

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Mike Blakesley
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What the heck does "CAP" stand for anyway?

Code Against Piracy?

Crazy About Polkadots?

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Joe Redifer
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Coded Anti-Piracy

It is quite interesting, but I just now noticed John's pic having a lack of colors. The CAP coded pic has been online for a few days and looked good until now. WTF? By the way, Adam exaggerated the CAP code dots just so they would be noticable.

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Adam Martin
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I did nothing of the sort. That's what this new shit looks like on screen, although I have it set for .1 seconds instead of 1/24. The frequency of its appearance is almost dead-on, though, at every four seconds.

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Joe Redifer
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Brad told me that you exaggerated it. Even though you are the one who did the animation, I will take his word over yours. [Smile]

Anyone care to explain the sudden loss of colors in his pic? Manny is right, it does look unacceptably bad (looked great yesterday).

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Brad Miller
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Nope, I said the original version of the pic was exaggerated. The one that is posted looks really close to the real CAP code.

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Adam Martin
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The color loss in John's photo is probably because it's a .gif file now for the animation. Or because it's gone through a few generations of compression/optimization. He needs a new one anyway. Someone take a photo of him at ShowEast.

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Phil Hill
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OK Dammit! I've been looking at John's pic for 5 minutes and have yet to see any changes! I'm sick of looking at John!

What gives?

>>> Phil

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Joe Redifer
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The dots are waaaaay too big to look like the real CAP code. At least the original John Pytlak CAP code.

As far as GIF goes, it is capable of 256 colors simultaneously. What is there now looks like no more than 16. GIF is also lossless, so I don't see how saving it over and over again would decrease the colors. I swear it looked better yesterday.

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Mike Blakesley
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Joe - it's your Mac. Try looking at it on a Windows machine. [evil]

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Carl Martin
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i can't see it either. i've seen the crap code in movies so why can't i see john's acne? steve's c/o animation worked. oh, now i get it. y'all are talking about the mustaches in phil's pic.

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John Pytlak
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I certainly can see those five huge "zits" on my face every four seconds! [Big Grin]

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Dave Williams
Wet nipple scene

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They look like the same damn dots that I keep seeing in EVERY damn film I have seen this year. It seems that they wait until a bright white seen to put those dots in and BAM there they are.

STOP IT DAMNIT STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Mad]

Dave

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