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Joe Beres
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This one is better than much of the press we have discussed here, but the first paragraph is still uninformed and infuriating.

Digital Projection of Films Is Coming. Now, Who Pays?

October 13, 2003
By ERIC TAUB



LOS ANGELES, Oct. 12 - Moviegoers who recently saw the
Johnny Depp film "Once Upon a Time in Mexico'' at the
Pacific Sherman Oaks Galleria 16 cinema here may have
noticed that something was different. Instead of the traces
of dust and scratches, and the slight shaking of the image
that is perceptible at many screenings, they were looking
at a picture that is pristine, sharp and steady.

That is because the film was projected digitally, the
images fed not from a five-foot-diameter reel of
35-millimeter film, but from a computer hard drive, and
beamed onto the screen using a projector without any moving
parts.

Filmgoers evidently like what they see. "Given a choice
between watching a 35-millimeter print or a digital file of
the film, customers prefer the digital version," said Jerry
Pokorski, executive vice president and head film buyer for
Pacific Theaters, which operates the 16-screen movie
complex in Sherman Oaks, in the San Fernando Valley. The
theater's newspaper ads note when a film is showing in the
digital format, and "our grosses are as much as 40 percent
higher when we screen a film digitally," Mr. Pokorski said.

One might think that a crowded theater and higher ticket
sales are all the evidence a multiplex owner would need to
be persuaded that digital projectors are worth adopting.
But economics and industry politics, as well as continued
disagreements over technical formats, have delayed the
long-predicted digital revolution in movie theaters. A big
sticking point is the standoff between theater owners and
Hollywood studios over who will pay to update the nation's
35,000 projection booths.

So far, the Galleria's digital system is one of only 39
that the supplier, Technicolor Digital Cinema, has
installed around the country as an experiment, at no charge
to the theater owners. In all, fewer than 80 cinemas in the
United States have movie-quality digital projectors - some
of the others having been installed experimentally by
another emerging competitor, Boeing Digital Systems, and
the rest by theater owners. Throughout the world, fewer
than 200 cinemas in some two dozen countries are using
digital projectors to show movies - with most of the
machines paid for by the manufacturers for test-marketing
purposes.

Aesthetics aside, the exhibitors say that the cost-benefit
analysis comes down too much in favor of the studios, which
could save a couple of million dollars on each movie they
release if they could send it to theaters as digital files
- whether by satellite, or high-speed network lines, or on
hard drives - rather than shipping film copies that can
cost $1,200 each. At that rate, a 2,000-print domestic
release, common for a typical feature film, costs about
$2.4 million in duplication costs, according to Screen
Digest, a British research firm, which estimated that the
movie studios spend a total of $1.36 billion a year to
produce and distribute prints worldwide.

The way the theater owners see it, the costs would not
offset any benefits. A typical 35-millimeter projector,
they say, costs $30,000 and lasts up to 30 years. But a
feature-film-grade digital projector is expected to cost as
much as $150,000, at least initially. And because it is a
new technology, its effective life is unknown. Beyond the
price of the projector would be the cost of the satellite
dishes or high-speed transmission lines needed to receive
the digital file, as well as an investment in the automated
theater management systems to connect and control the
entire operation.

"With the cost savings the studios would enjoy, they could
fund the U.S. transition to digital projection in seven
years," said John Fithian, president of the National
Association of Theater Owners, the exhibitors' trade group.
"But theater owners could not sell enough extra tickets or
raise prices high enough to cover those costs."

Theater owners do acknowledge that there might be economic
and operating benefits for themselves, as the Galleria 16
experiment seems to indicate. To prepare a standard
35-millimeter film for projection, several employees must
now physically splice the film to the preview trailers the
night before the first show. By contrast, to prepare a
movie for digital projection at the Digital Cinema test
site in the Galleria, an operator selects the film title
and the accompanying trailers from a list on a computer
screen, and adds them to the night's play list.

Mark Kahn, a Pacific Theaters engineer responsible for the
company's digital installations, said: "My policy is to
keep it simple, so I created a program that allows the
projectionist to just push a button and leave. The system
lowers the lights, plays the trailers, turns off the
lights, and starts the digital projector.''

To ensure that a technical problem does not interfere with
the show, a copy of the digital file runs simultaneously on
a second hard drive. If the first hard drive fails, an
operator can switch to the backup drive. And for good
measure, a 35-millimeter film copy of the movie is also
running, and that projector can start showing the film if
both hard drives crash.

But Mr. Pokorski of Pacific Theaters says he does not
believe that eliminating the film-preparation tasks will
necessarily translate into lower labor costs. "It still
takes from 4 to 10 hours to prepare and test the digital
print prior to its first screening," he said. "There is
really no overall financial benefit for us to go digital,
so we should not have to pay for the transition."

Before the digital transition can occur in earnest, various
technical and business issues also need to be resolved,
which is why many industry experts predict that the shift
may still take seven years to complete.

Hollywood studios, though, are eager to make the switch,
and not only because they will no longer have to make and
transport costly film prints. Using digital play lists,
like those that catalog music on personal computers, movies
and trailers will begin at the right time and in the right
order, simply by highlighting a title on a computer screen
and adding it to the list. And the film studios plan to use
various forms of scrambling software - encryption - to keep
the movies unviewable by anyone not possessing keys to the
digital code.

"By switching to an encrypted digital projection
technology, the motion picture industry will be able to
reduce the losses it now incurs due to piracy," said
Charles Swartz, executive director of the Entertainment
Technology Center, which, through its Digital Cinema
Laboratory, is testing various digital projection
technologies for the industry.

Thwarting piracy is only part of the laboratory's function.
"We need to create standards that are better than the
consumer can now get at home with an HDTV and a
surround-sound system," Mr. Swartz said.

The lab expects to complete its work by the end of the
year. In 2004, Digital Cinema Initiatives, an industry
group set up by the movie studios, plans to establish
specifications. Then, the Society of Motion Picture and
Television Engineers would be asked to adopt technical
standards for the industry.

The recent digital installation at the Sherman Oaks
Galleria used a digital projector made by Christie Digital
of Cypress, Calif. Technicolor also uses projectors made by
Barco, a Belgian company. A third manufacturer, Digital
Projection International of Manchester, England, has
supplied digital equipment to a number of Japanese movie
theaters. All three makers use the digital light
processing, or D.L.P., chip invented by Texas Instruments,
to project the image. Eastman Kodak has licensed a separate
projection technology, known as D-ILA, from the Japanese
electronics company JVC and expects to market
digital-feature-film grade projectors beginning in 2005,
according to Bill Doeren, general manager of the Digital
Cinema Group at Kodak.

Doug Darrow, the Texas Instruments business manager
overseeing the development of the D.L.P. chip, predicts
that the costs of digital projection systems will come
down.

"Once the standards are defined, companies that can develop
cheaper solutions will enter the marketplace," he said.
"We'll see a tiered approach, with smaller screens able to
use less expensive projectors."

But the exhibitors say they are skeptical. "With only
35,000 screens in the U.S., and an additional 115,000 in
the rest of the world," Mr. Fithian of the theater owners'
trade group said, "the economies of scale are not there to
create lower prices."

Talks between the theater owners and the studios to resolve
the transition issues began last March. Neither side will
comment on their status of the discussions. Several third
parties have stepped into the financial breach, proposing
to finance the hardware and software transition, and then
charge the studios a per-screen fee. The studios say they
have looked at the third-party approaches, but "we've not
yet begun examining them," said Chuck Goldwater, the
president of Digital Cinema Initiatives.

Rather than wait for all the issues to be resolved, one big
theater owner, the Regal Entertainment Group - which owns
the Edwards, Regal and United Artists theaters - has
installed a less-expensive type of digital projector in 306
of its 561 cinemas. The systems, which project an image
quality comparable to high-definition television, but not
fully equivalent to 35-millimeter film, are being used for
packages of advertisements before feature films or when
renting out the theaters for corporate videoconferences or
special remote transmissions of concerts and other live
entertainment.

"We're making money on our ad sales," said Kurt Hall,
president of the Regal CineMedia unit. "And we've built our
digital infrastructure. Once digital feature film standards
are set, we only have to upgrade our projectors to be
ready."

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Bobby Henderson
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This article seems pretty well-balanced from the matter of the cost-benefit model and how that pertains to commercial movie theaters. The film distributors are fools if they are entertaining any thoughts that exhibitors should foot the bill for the transition.

As usual, the article gets the tech-side of things wrong and basically shows the ignorance displayed on part of the general public regarding the so-called quality of "digital projection."

I thought this passage, describing Regal's low cost digital projection system for advertising was really funny:
quote:
The systems, which project an image quality comparable to high-definition television, but not fully equivalent to 35-millimeter film, are being used for packages of advertisements before feature films
Eric Taub, the article's author, might be surprised to find those DLP chips show only 1280 X 1024 pixels of native resolution, well below the standard of 1080i HDTV and not even close to capturing the image detail of 4/35mm. Hopefully the marketing value of the word "digital" will soon lose its punch and people can get down to the real numbers on these things before adopting them.

TI is reportedly getting 2K DLP chips ready for production. That is a better step in the right direction. They say the 2K chip will not find its way into home theater equipment any time soon. Yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt too. The biggest market for any of this stuff will be in consumer electronics and you can bet that TI 2K chip will be in plasma screen displays within the next year or two. The real promise for video projection in commercial cinemas would come from competitors forcing standards of 3K, 4K and even higher. If they can hit those benchmarks then we can begin talking about a transition. Still, the cost model has to be such that it does not break commercial theaters. Until then 35mm will continue to rule.

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Evans A Criswell
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I really wish that the transition wouldn't take place until they have 4000 (or 4096) pixels across the width of the image and the corresponding number of pixels for the height.

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Richard Fowler
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The TI 2k chips are in production. 3 or 4K in the master would be nice but reality of rendering, storage and compression make 2k a good target for exhibition. Most recent home theater projectors are XGA / SXGA and are able to handle 720p easily with scaling. Sony has their Qualia unit for true HDTV but supplies and cost make it a limited product. Color space and contrast have high importance in regard to image quality; resolution seems the only point I see people hang your pixels on. BARCO with their new DP100 with slide out sub-chassis for lamp and DLP engine appears as a way to upgrade the machine if someone wants a "Digital 70" image in the future [Wink]

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Bobby Henderson
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48-bit color (with 16-bits per channel instead of the standard 8-bits) would be nice for video projection, but probably not very feasible in the near term. Scanners, image editors like Photoshop and leading 3D animation apps can do lots of stuff in 48-bit color mode. But how do you get past the 24-bit RGB limit apparent in just about every computer monitor and video projection system? The resolution thing might be easier to tackle first.

To address the 2K versus 4K thing, I think 4K is more feasible than the movie companies are willing to admit. We've seen movies do 2K (and even some stuff in 4K) since the late 1980's and early 1990's. There's lots of factors that strongly call for effects labs and digital intermediate processes (like those used by Kodak's CineSite or Technicolor's "Technique") to drive quality up another level to at least 4K.

Just look at the geometrical rate personal computing and workstation computing has improved in the last decade. It kind of amazes me that labs like ILM could accomplish what they did with the level of hardware that was available. In 1993 any computer graphic artist would have loved having a tricked out SGI Iris Indigo workstation. Now that same computer doesn't even have a fraction of the power of the lowest low-end PC you find at Wal-Mart.

In the early 1990's RAM cost $50 or more per megabyte. Now the same $50 can easily buy you a 256MB DDR DIMM module (a workstation in 1993 with 256MB of RAM would have cost more than a Corvette). We're now even seeing video cards that carry 256MB of RAM. This, mind you, is consumer level stuff. Pro-level 3D cards often carry multiple GPUs, each quite a bit more powerful than a mainstream Radeon9800.

Look how many times over CPU power has improved on just the desktop PC level in the last decade. In 1993 the Intel Pentium and Motorola PowerPC chips were just getting introduced. It was a big deal for chips to start zeroing in on the 100MHz barrier. The "Pentium V" chip (or whatever it will be called) may eclipse the 4GHz mark in a matter of a few months. And this isn't even a high end server chip. Of course, an effects house doesn't do a rendering routine on a single workstation either. They wire together lots of multiprocessor workstations in a rendering farm.

Storage capacity is a big complaint for CGI folks. What the hell were they doing in the past when they didn't even have 1/100th of the space we have now? It was a big deal to have a 1GB or 2GB hard disc in a PC back in 1993. My 3 year old Dell has 160GB on two physical discs, and that's nothing compared to the high end for PCs. We've got 500GB Serial ATA RAID setups starting to appear. There are high end RAID systems and tape systems than can store data in the tens or hundreds of terabytes. How much storage space do the effects houses need to do 4K?

I'm sorry, I just don't get the whole "4K isn't feasible" argument. The persistence of the 2K thing seems more driven for the interests of cost cutting and meeting ever shorter deadlines. It doesn't seem to be so driven by "raising the bar of quality" anymore (especially when the effects houses were doing so much "analog" based stuff).

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Paul Konen
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I think it is pretty amazing to make something in regards to DLP chips in that it currently contains 1.3 Million MOVEABLE mirrors. Now these mirrors and nanometers in size and to create these chips must be incredibly difficult.

I don't know what that guy does in building his platters, it takes me about 5 minutes to build the platter, maybe about 15 minutes or so to change the lenses (my units are older so I have to change both the zoom and anamorphic). The rest is normal screening time.

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Edward Jurich
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I saw a 35mm presentation at an AMC here in Kansas City. The picture was extremely sharp, could not even see grain most of the time. Jitter was so slight I had to look fot it. No dirt to speak of and not a scratch.
You get scratchy, dirty pictures at theaters that are not run properly. I wonder how digital projection at those same theaters would look after some hours on the equipment and the projector starts to have problems. Chances are, as long as there is a picture it will just run as is. So instead of dirt and scratches you could have color shift, or dead spots/color spots in the picture from a failing DLP chip.

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Bobby Henderson
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Here's a good example or analogy that might allow some people to imagine what a DLP show would look like with the projection system in disreapair: ever noticed an outdoor electronic message center sign with a few bulbs burned out?

This problem really shows up well on a unit running 5 watt wedge-based incandescant lamps. Words and graphics will scroll across the display just fine, but a few of those bulbs strangely will not light. The motion of the sales phrases calls even more attention to those inactive lamps.

If any of the micromirrors in a TI DLP chip malfunction, you'll get some of the same kind of distracting abberations. Pixels stuck on 100% green or just a black dot here or there on the screen, like a speck of dust that can never be cleaned away.

Don't get me wrong, the micromirror chip is an amazing accomplishment. But I just don't think it is very practical when one considers the demands of image resolution for movie projection and improvements for home theater display. Other competing technologies are certain to surpass DLP. And that is primarily because only so many micromirrors can be crammed onto a single silicon chip. Other processes will be able to miniaturize much farther and add higher resolution. DLP chips are very expensive, which will be another source of downfall for the chip. With other competing imagers becoming smaller and smaller, more can be fit on a wafer of silicon and produced for less money.

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Darryl Spicer
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Like I have mentioned before. If you have to replace a chip you will probably be looking at well over 50,000 dollars. A brand new intermittent around 1,500 dollars. Another thing they are failing to realize is the massive amount of light that is required. Some of these lamphouse console in theaters like ORC and CFS are not going to be able to put out the quality of light that will be required. That is another expensive cost. Then if you wanted to do the ol film back up move you will need an aditional lamphouse. I will support it if it can effectivly produce an image far better than 35 MM and in my opinion exceding 70 MM film.

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