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Topic: Staten Island ferry accident.
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man
Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 10-16-2003 03:34 PM
Jeff, I read that, too. A picture of the wreck was all over the front page of the Seattle PI as well as the Seattle Times. It was a nasty accident. As I type, the death toll was placed at 10, with 60 injured. Picture by Mike Hvozda/AP
Photo by Stuart Ransom/AP Photo:
We in Washington State have the biggest state-run ferry system in the world. We have also had our share of dock collisions.
On Sept. 8, 1999, the ferry Elwha hit the Orcas Island dock, because of a software malfunction in its propulsion system, and caused $2.5 million in damage.
On June 12, 1998, the propulsion controls failed on the Sealth, causing that vessel to ram into Seattle's Colman Dock, slightly injuring seven passengers. Damage to the dock was estimated at more than $2 million.
May 23, 1995 -- Nisqually crashes into dock at Lopez Island, and several passengers complain of injuries. Jan. 19, 1994 -- Elwha rams wingwall at Anacortes after engines fail.
June 28, 1990 -- Chelan slams Orcas Island dock after power loss.
Dec. 29, 1987 -- Kittitas rams Clinton dock as captain tries to land the vessel while keeping watch over a fight on the car deck.
Sept. 12, 1986 -- Cathlamet smashes into the south slip of the Clinton terminal.
Jan. 10, 1983 -- Issaquah hits Bremerton dock.
Nov. 16, 1982 -- Nisqually rams Kingston dock.
Aug. 3, 1982 -- Issaquah smashes into Southworth dock.
Oct. 1, 1980 -- Nisqually crashes into Mukilteo dock.
We have also had several suicide cases where someone barrels up the loading ramp onto ferry's car deck, down the car deck at a high rate of speed and off the other end into the "drink."
Working as a deck hand on the car deck can be very dangerous, indeed. Some deck hands will often wonder where the hell some of these people got their driver's license.
I embarrased one teen-ager one night while on board the MV Yakima. The teen-ager was following so closely I could not see his headlights of his car. When I stopped, he didn't have enough time to do the same. (By the way, my stop was very smooth and slow.)
Well, the teenager rear-ended my car. Nothing serious...no damage to any car whatsoever. I thought, "Oh Jeeze"..and got out of my car. The kid that hit me was already embarrased, sheepish and apologetic. I thought I would capitalize on this one.
I put my hands on my hips and yelled, "You know, this is the very first time I ever got rammed in the ass by a ferry on a ferry."
I then turned around and walked away. The kid was standing there with an helpless astonished grin on his face.
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man
Posts: 4718
From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 10-16-2003 11:04 PM
You have heard Jack and myself comment on the Washington State Ferries from time to time.
You might find this kink interesting.
http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/ferries/your_wsf/our_fleet/index.cfm?fuseaction=classes
The Jumbo MkII Class has 4 each EMD 710V16 engines. The boats are 460 feet 2 inches in length. It will carry 218 vehicles.
The Jumbo Class has 4 each EMD 645V16 engines. The boats are 440 feet in length. It will carry 206 vehicles.
Super Class has 4 each EMD 567V16 engines. The boats are 382 feet 2 inches in length. It is capable of carrying 160 vehicles.
The Issaquah 130 Class has 2 each General Electric N7FDM-12 engines, Diesel Reduction gear drive. The boats are 328 feet in length. It is a 130-car ferry.
The Issaquah 100 Class are powered by the same engine model as the 130 class. It is likewise 328 feet long. It is a 100-car ferry.
The Evergreen State Class is a 310-footer, the same size ferry that rammed the dock in Staten. Ours can carry a maximum of 100 vehicles or a maximum of 30 commercial vehicles and 1000 passengers. Ours have a deck clearance of 13 feet 3 inches and has a beam of 73 feet. Ours drafts 15 feet 10 inches of water and weighs 2041 tons fully loaded and 1017 tons empty. Ours were at one time equipped with General Motors 278AV16 engines. What they have in them now, I don't know. I would presume (being an old navy man) that the ferry at Staten was very similar to our Evergreen State Class of boats. The Staten ferry was the same length, that being 310 feet.
The Steel-Electric Class are 256 feet long, can carry 75 vehicles, and are powered by Wartsilla-Vesa 8-cylinder engines. They are Diesel-Electric drive boats.
The Rhododendron Class can only carry 65 vehicles total. She was orginally powered by a direct-drive setup using Faibanks-Morris 8-cylinder Diesels. I have never been in the engine room, but I understood there were two engines. What is in there now, I don't know. But whatever it is, there are two engines. I think the boat was converted to Diesel Electric.
And then, there is the Hiyu. A little cork-popper. It is 162 feet long and can carry 40 vehicles. It has two engines, but I don't know what they are. [ 10-17-2003, 12:37 AM: Message edited by: Paul G. Thompson ]
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