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Author Topic: Sean, Shane, Shawn, Pronunciation Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-18-2003 04:02 AM                  I got into a discussion with ....well, that's not important right now… about how to pronounce the various variations of "that" name. I would like to know from those that are so endowed/blessed with that name as to how they pronounce their name. Does Shawn rhyme with dawn? Does Shane rhyme with chain? Does Sean rhyme with scene like in "Scene 12, Take 5"? Or are all pronounced "Shawn" so as to rhyme with dawn? >>>Phil  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 10-18-2003 04:15 AM                     Does Shawn rhyme with dawn? Almost, the 'aw' bit tends to be slightly longer. Does Shane rhyme with chain? Yes. Does Sean rhyme with scene like in "Scene 12, Take 5"? No, either the same as Shawn, or more like si-orn. At least that's how they are in my bart of the world. Pronunction tends to vary from place to place. If I was to go a couple of hundred kilometres North to Birmingham (England, not AL) they would, no doubt pronounce them differently; but then they all talk funny in Birmingham, can't understand a word they say! Seriously, pronounciation does vary considerably, though Professor Higgins in 'My Fair Lady' is a bit exaggerated.  |  IP: Logged Dick Vaughan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1032 From: Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2000 posted 10-18-2003 05:06 AM                        On the female side: Sian is pronounced Sharn Siobahn is pronounced Sh-varn or Sh-vorn At least hereabouts And as for Phil Hill is that pronounced Fill Ill or Feel Eel?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-18-2003 05:16 AM                     prefers "coot" (just like it sounds).  |  IP: Logged Shane Hoffmann Film Handler Posts: 68 From: Fond du Lac, WI, USA Registered: Feb 2003 posted 10-18-2003 11:12 AM                     Shane is a completely different name than Shawn, Sean, etc. It amazes me that everytime I meet someone new. I'll introduce myself as SHANE, and at least half of the time they will call me SHAWN for quite a while before getting it straight. Is it really that hard?  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 10-18-2003 11:26 AM                       Who could get THAT wrong? "Shaaaane! Come back, Shane!"  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-18-2003 03:35 PM                        How do you pronounce Phil? Does it rhyme with Hill?  |  IP: Logged Gerard S. Cohen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 975 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 10-18-2003 03:43 PM                     "Bei mir bist du schoen (pronounced shane) " ("To me you are handsome (beautiful, good looking)" Music by Sholom Secunda; Yiddish lyrics by Jacob Jacobs. Big hit by the Andrews Sisters; English lyrics by Sammy Cahn & Saul Chaplin, 1937  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-18-2003 05:02 PM                  Thank you Stephen for your "civil" response. Some of yous are jerks... Ummm Brad! I asked a sincere question, not some "female" response! Dick! For the un-enlightened, "Phil" is pronounced by most people as "fill". But, some places in the UK and in the US deep south I've been called (among other things) "feel". In Japan I am called "Gaijin". "Hill" does indeed rhyme with "fill". I hope that is clear to all you pussy-asses! Mike! And "SHANE" I totally understand your feelings... there are plenty of stupid people out there.... >>> Phil ("Fill" NOT "FEEL")  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 10-18-2003 05:19 PM                        As a former stage manager for The Wayner at the Sands Hotel, I must give the obligatory plug for his hit Danke Schoen (Kurt Schwabach & Milt Gabler/Bert Kaempfert)... Phil, in your case I thought it was henna gaijin I would know--mine was baka gehin gaijin  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-18-2003 05:34 PM                  Paul! I "KNEW" when I posted that, you would comment! It was "bait" for you! Hahahhaha >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 10-18-2003 06:29 PM                    Bei mir bist du schoen (pronounced shane) Um...no. Not in German anyway. It should be "Bei mir bist du schön" and that is more of a "shern" than "shane." As a former stage manager for The Wayner at the Sands Hotel, I must give the obligatory plug for his hit Danke Schoen Well the Wayner has been pronouncing it wrong all these years. The "Danke shane" pronunciation has always made me cringe. But I will defer to Michael for the definitive answer.  |  IP: Logged Gerard S. Cohen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 975 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 10-18-2003 08:39 PM                     "Bei mir bist du schoen, I'll try to explain, It means you're the fairest in the land. I could say 'Bella, bella' Even say 'Vunderbar' In any language...I could tell you..[not sure of this line] How grand you are! " etc. (English lyrics copyright 1937 by Cahn & Chaplin) Steve, Of course in German schoen is pronounced <shurn> (rhymes with churn) but if you "Dress British, Speak Yiddish" it's pronounced <shane> (rhymes with explain) Gerard  |  IP: Logged Rachel Craven Madam Moderator Posts: 2190 From: Pensacola, FL Registered: Dec 2000 posted 10-18-2003 08:44 PM                     Where is Sean McKinnon, I'm waiting for him to chime in... He always complains that people say "seen" instead of "shawn".  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-18-2003 09:00 PM                        Gerard is right. The "shane" pronunciation is the the Yiddish variation (Yiddish itself can be either seen as a separate language closely related to German or a German dialect). However, it is also used in some German dialects. In the Berlin dialect you can use both pronunciations. That in turn is probably because it contains a lot of Yiddish elements ("Ganove, Schlamassel, Kittchen" - Gerard, do you know what these mean?). The qoted songs are always sung "shane" also in German.  |  IP: Logged

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