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Author Topic: Ogden UTAH here We come ! Paul Cassidy Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 549 From: Auckland, New Zealand Registered: Aug 2001 posted 10-27-2003 04:47 PM                        Well we will in the Big State of CAL where Arni is the MAN , we intend to travel to Ogden Utah on the 6th of NOV and need advise on Travelling by road from LA to Ogden ,I have got a Travel guide from www.randmcnally.com to take the I-15 N Route 66 , travelling at this time of the year by car are we going the strike snow or black ice ??? and how safe is driving (we drive on the Left hand side)or is it better to take a Bus (Greyhound) as there are 4 of us we want to keep the travelling costs down as much as possible , Air Fares approx 216USD return 432NZD approx each and Amtrak 195USD 400NZD approx. Avis Rentals approx 230USD for 8 days plus gas not too sure about Mileage charge.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 10-27-2003 05:37 PM                        Nice road trip you've got planned there Paul! As you've noted the entire route will be on Interstate highway, which is pretty safe (divided lanes, controlled access, curves and grades designed for high speeds). Just have to watch for other driver's mistakes, like you would anywhere else. Thursday daytime shouldn't be bad traffic-wise (Friday afternoon/evenings LA to Las Vegas, and Sunday afternoon/evenings 'Vegas back to LA are very bad). And of course expect morning rush-hour driving conditions in LA from about 6AM-10AM (though the worst of it will be opposite direction to you). 'Vegas afternoon rush-hour traffic will slow you down if you happen to hit town around 4PM-7PM ('Vegas is about five hours from LA on I-15). Thursday, Nov. 6th is still 10 days off, so will have to see what happens weather-wise. But so far, there's been no snow along your route. Temperatures are dropping below freezing at night at the higher elevations but that shouldn't be a problem unless someone spills something on the roadway The fires in California's San Bernardino County have caused intermittant closures of I-15 and I-215 in the Cajon Pass area. Hopefully, the fires will be under control by the 6th. There are plenty of alternative routes around the hot spots though. Some weather sites to look at: http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/graphicsversion/rbigmain.html http://www.noaa.gov/ Looks like about an 11-hour drive for you that day, with Las Vegas at about the 5-hour point. Give a shout if you decide to stop in 'Vegas for lunch or something.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-27-2003 05:45 PM                     Paul, Yea, Best to drive up here.... just hop on I-15 and take that all the way. If you like the desert as I do then take route 93 just north of Vegas to route 6 in Utah and then east over to I-15. Route 6 goes through the Great Basin area which is spectaculuar if you like big open places. There are also a couple of old mining towns... Caliente, and Pioche as you head north along route 93 in Nevada that are quite interesting. Pioche once had a population od almost 30,000 people but today is less than 2000. It still has an operating movie theatre though. Overall I-15 is pretty boreing....although just north of St. George you can take a side trip to Zion National Park (absolutely worth seeing), Its about 30 jmiles off of I-15 and well worth the drive and sped a day there on the tour. Be sure to catch the 15/70 film at the Zion Park Large Format Theatre while you're there. You could also check out Cedar Breaks near Cedar City. So at least of you want to see stuff I guess there is an advantage of going both ways....I've just been up and down I-15 soooooo many times . Give me a call when you get in town and I'll show you around. Mark @ CLACO 801-355-1250 When in Ogden be sure to check out the Egyptian Theatre. A real eye popper of a theatre...live and film. There is an Ernemann 16/35 in the booth there.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-27-2003 05:45 PM                        I would also recommend you to drive. You might take a bus to your location, but if you want to go anywhere else, you are pretty much in a hopeless situation here. Public transport does exist, but it is not very developed. Driving rules are basically the same as in many other countries, you can take a look at the California Driver Handbook to master the finer points like where you are allowed to turn left over the yellow lines and stuff like that. There is also a silver mining town next to I-15 in California, Calico. It is reconstructed a bit disneylandy, but it is worth stopping for a quick look around.  |  IP: Logged Paul Cassidy Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 549 From: Auckland, New Zealand Registered: Aug 2001 posted 10-27-2003 07:28 PM                        Thanks for the tips guys , I'm looking forward to the Trip and as they say "Getting there is half the Fun"  |  IP: Logged Ron Yost Master Film Handler Posts: 344 From: Paso Robles, CA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 10-27-2003 07:45 PM                     We drive on the right (unless we're trying to outrun the cops). Fill up the car whenever you get a chance. There's vast distances of nothing on the route your taking, so keep the car gassed up. (Petroled up?) Gas stations are self-service where you'll be. Credit cards are the way to go, if you can. Visa, MasterCard, etc. You'll have to visit a bank if you want money exchanged. The U.S. is very poorly set up to deal with foreign currencies in retail locations. Our "Interstates" are generally kept in good condition. You should have no problem there. It's not winter yet (matter of fact, it's been abnormally warm here in the West), so snow and ice shouldn't be a problem, unless you get into some high-mountain passes. I wouldn't worry about it. Most of all .. HAVE FUN!! Do enjoy some of the absolutely stunning scenery California and Utah have to offer. Utah, especially, as Mark says. If you have time, try to take Highway 1 up the California coast from San Luis Obispo to Monterey. One of the most gorgeous routes in the world! Ron Yost  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 10-27-2003 07:56 PM                        quote: Our "Interstates" are generally kept in good condition. Hahaha! Good one.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 10-28-2003 12:48 AM                        Well, normally I-15 would be smooth sailing all the way, but for now there is construction work going on between Cajon Pass and Barstow, and again between Baker and the California/Nevada state line. Weekday/daytime traffic will be a bit slower in these areas, but it shouldn't be too bad unless someone screws up and takes a lane out. One can expect traffic to do a steady 75+ MPH outside of the construction zones and central city areas.  |  IP: Logged Dick Vaughan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1032 From: Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2000 posted 10-28-2003 02:26 AM                        Being several thousand miles away from Ogden I can't comment on the roads and weather . However one non film related place to visit should you be so inclined is the Museum at Hill Air Force Base. it's about 10 years since i was ther but there are some amazing aircraft there. Mark / Paul M Is St George the place where the airport is on top of a plateau ? I remember taking a connecting flight (Vegas -Reno?) on a little commuter (Merlin or Metro ?) that stopped over there. As I remeber you fly along looking several hundred feet down to the ground then all of a sudden you are over the end of the runway without descending . Weird sensation.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 10-28-2003 12:37 PM                        Dick, a couple of airports around here fit that description, but St. George is most likely the one you are remembering. The airport is on a high mesa just west of town and yes, the approaches and departures are quite spectacular. It's a favorite fly-in dining spot for local pilots, especially the Rococo Steak House with its view of the city. Skywest Airlines are still based there, though nowadays they fly the Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia turboprop and the Canadair CRJ-200 Regional Jet. The Swearingen Metro III's (a.k.a. Texas Lawn Darts) have thankfully been long retired. For Paul, St. George is on I-15 and is a little under two hours drive time past Las Vegas. All of Utah is in the Mountain Time Zone (one hour later than Nevada and California).  |  IP: Logged Paul Cassidy Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 549 From: Auckland, New Zealand Registered: Aug 2001 posted 10-28-2003 03:02 PM                        Thanks Michael for the CAL Driver HandBook , I have printed out the relevant pages to study , the Laws are similar to our NZ road rules , as our major Law is to give Way (Yeild ) to the Right , see http://www.aahost.co.nz/roadrules.html , Do you have Round-Abouts on Intersections in CAL ????  |  IP: Logged Dick Vaughan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1032 From: Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2000 posted 10-28-2003 03:12 PM                        Paul C said quote: Do you have Round-Abouts on Intersections in CAL ???? They call them traffic circles and I think there is a grand total of 2 in the 48 contiguous states!  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 10-28-2003 03:19 PM                        quote: They call them traffic circles and I think there is a grand total of 2 in the 48 contiguous states! Then you haven't driven around Boston, MA! Even Buffalo NY has one.  |  IP: Logged Dick Vaughan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1032 From: Bradford, West Yorkshire, UK Registered: Jul 2000 posted 10-28-2003 03:28 PM                        OK John ! It's a fair cop. But for really great roundabouts you need to visit the UK. http://www.swindonweb.com/life/lifemagi0.htm http://www.pberry.plus.com/ukroads/magicroundabouts/  |  IP: Logged Jeffry L. Johnson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 809 From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 10-28-2003 04:39 PM                        This intersection (Saw Mill River Parkway & Taconic State Parkway) was a traffic circle until the early 1970's (IIRC). Traffic jams were very common. Roundabout History  |  IP: Logged

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