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Topic: And the next James Bond is... Wolverine?!?
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John Scott
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posted 10-28-2003 11:10 PM
The only problem with that Hillary is that when Fleming sold the rights to the books to Broccoli and Saltzman, one of the stipulations was that if they were to use "Spy Who Loved Me", they were only allowed to use the title. Fleming didn't like how the story in the book turned out and said it could never be adapted into a Bond movie in any form.
Having read all of the books, I see where Fleming was coming from there, but I really did appreciate the effort that Fleming made to try and escape from the format he had gotten himself locked into, even though it wasn't 100% successful.
Remember, Fleming had gotten bored with the Bond character after the 5th book, "From Russia With Love" and intended the kick that Rosa Kleb gave him in the hotel room to be a fatal blow. He was convinced to bring Bond back by his publisher in Dr. No, because the books had become so successful due to Kennedy listing it as one of his favorite books.
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Hillary Charles
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posted 10-29-2003 08:17 AM
Yeah, I read that at some point, the producers were only allowed to use the titles, although after that point, many story elements from the books were used in the films, most notably "For Your Eyes Only," which combines two short stories from the FYEO collection, plus the paravane/shark scene from the book "Live and Let Die." Was it just on specific titles like TSWLM? I still think that would make a decent little indy film if done properly. I think it was John Huston who once said that he'd rather try to film a bad book than a good one, so he could improve the story rather than be criticized for not following it properly (very much paraphrased, there).
And didn't Fleming end the series AGAIN at the end of "You Only Live Twice" with Bond blissfully unaware of his past, living the rest of his life in Japan? And then brought back one more time in "The Man With The Golden Gun"..?
The gadgets are getting very silly (invisible Aston Martin), and it's time again to bring Bond back down to earth, but apparently a small motel in the woods is not quite the answer. These days, it seems like Jack Bauer from 24 has more in common with Ian Fleming's character than the movie Bond.
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John Scott
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posted 10-29-2003 08:55 AM
That is correct. Bond was only brought back in the posthumously published "The Man With The Golden Gun", which was taken from a first draft found in Fleming's notes. Its clear it was a working draft though, the book is terrible.
And yes, the movie "Bond" has gotten very far from the Bond of the books. Unfortunately time and again, moviegoers have voted with their pocketbooks and have said they don't want a Bond like the books (On Her Majesty's Secret Service, License to Kill)
As for the movies like For Your Eyes Only, Octopussy, and A View From A Kill, those three books were short story compilations (or the actual short story titles) and as such, they merged a couple of the short stories into these films.
I think the only (or one of the few) actual Fleming Bond titles still available for use is "Risco" "Quantum of Solace" and "The Hildebrand Rarity", titles that probably wouldn't be conducive to a film.
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