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Topic: What Was Movie #40000?
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Jeffry L. Johnson
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From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 11-18-2003 08:12 PM
Is the MPAA number a continuation of the Production Code Administration ("The Hays Office") certification number which began in 1934? Baby Take a Bow has PCA cert no. 3.
Field Guide To Titles And Credits
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MPAA (MPPDA) Numbers
Otherwise known as the "Hays Office" (made mention of in one early 40's cartoon), the Motion Picture Producers And Distributors Of America issued numbered "approval certificates" for each film submitted to its office beginning in 1934, and complying films could show the MPPDA seal and certificate number. Warner Bros. cartoons, like the rest of the film industry, originally used a "pre-title" which showed a large MPPDA seal in the background and usually contained a statement such as "THIS MOTION PICTURE HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE MOTION PICTURE PRODUCERS AND DISTRIBUTORS OF AMERICA - CERTIFICATE NO. 95". (The actual MPPDA number for The Girl At The Ironing Board, one of the first WB cartoons to carry the seal.) Eventually proving cumbersome, the H.O. soon allowed producers to incorporate just the seal and certificate number into the titles the film itself. There are but a few WB cartoons whose MPAA (the name was changed in 1945 to Motion Picture Association Of America) numbers do not show on screen such as The Wearing Of The Grin, Hare Lift, Person To Bunny, Hyde And Go Tweet, and Pappy's Puppy. These shorts will be noted and research is ongoing to attempt to unearth the numbers.
I also searched "The American Film Institute Catalog 1961-1970" (ISBN 0-913616-45-1). The two earliest feature releases with MPAA ratings that I found are Who's That Knocking at My Door? (1968 September 08) and Duffy (1968 September 16).
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Darryl Spicer
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From: Lexington, KY, USA
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posted 11-18-2003 10:17 PM
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I also searched "The American Film Institute Catalog 1961-1970" (ISBN 0-913616-45-1). The two earliest feature releases with MPAA ratings that I found are Who's That Knocking at My Door? (1968 September 08) and Duffy (1968 September 16).
The following is a quote from the mpaa web site mentioned above. According to it the films mentioned above could not have received those ratings unless they were re-released after the start af the ratings usage.
My first move was to abolish the old and decaying Hays Production Code. I did that immediately. Then on November 1, 1968, we announced the birth of the new voluntary film rating system of the motion picture industry, with three organizations, NATO, MPAA, and IFIDA, as its monitoring and guiding groups.
The initial design called for four rating categories:
G for General Audiences, all ages admitted;
M for mature audiences - parental guidance suggested, but all ages admitted;
R for Restricted, children under 16 would not be admitted without an accompanying parent or adult guardian; (later raised to under 17 years of age, (and varies in some jurisdictions));
X for no one under 17 admitted.
The rating system trademarked all the category symbols, except the X. Under the plan, anyone not submitting his or her film for rating could self apply the X or any other symbol or description, except those trademarked by the rating program.
Our original plan had been to use only three rating categories, ending with R. It was my view that parents ought to be able to accompany their children to any movie the parents choose, without the movie industry or the government or self-appointed groups interfering with their rights. But NATO urged the creation of an adults only category, fearful of possible legal redress under state or local law. I acquiesced in NATO's reasoning and the four category system, including the X rating, was installed.
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I've often noticed the number above the MPAA logo was getting around 39900 and started to pay attention. Bruce Almighty and Hulk were still in the 39000 range, but Pirates is 400XX.
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