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Mike Blakesley
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This may seem pretty inconsequential, but what is the company's preference on this? Personally I hate all-lower-case names (lots of music groups have been doing this lately, such as matchbox twenty) because it makes the company name fade into the rest of the text. (Plus, it looks stupid.) And I know the logo has it in lowercase, but that doesn't always dictate.

So what is Digital Theatre Systems' preference for general use? DTS or dts?

I know they have silenced themselves around here lately, but maybe they could de-lurk one last time and answer this nagging question.

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Joe Redifer
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I prefer "DTS" since it is used as a pronoun. Proper nouns should be capitalized (that's right, jHAWK). Whether DTS prefers one or the other is irrelevant to me. Also, when it is typed as lowercase, it tends not to stand out at all. So you ignore it and go straight to where it says "Dolby Digital" [Smile]

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Bobby Henderson
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Joe is correct; DTS and other abbreviated acronyms should be capitalized. The only time the "DTS" letters should be lowercase is when the DTS logo itself is being shown. The DTS lettering in the logo is customized from the Letraset Dolmen type face. And the "DTS" letters typically seen on the CD-ROM movie discs and older machines is a very BAD attempt at reproducing the logo. DTS needs to at least fix that error on future movie CD-ROM discs. That weird knock off logo is just plain fugly.

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Michael Schaffer
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Mike - if you want to know what dts' or DTS' preference is - why don't you take a look at their website and see how they do it?

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Mike Blakesley
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OK, I did. It's DTS. Dammit, I was hoping this would turn into another big fight! [Smile]

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Rachel Craven
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No, it says dts on the site, DTS on the taskbar...

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Leo Enticknap
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Strictly speaking, I guess it should be D.T.S. - but I accept that it is now common usage not to put the full stops in abbreviations and acronyms.

The use of lower case pisses me off no end, though, especially when organisations think they're being trendy by styling themselves in this way. The worst example I know is the British Film Institute, which has styled itself 'bfi' for the last few years, probably since some moron PR consultant who failed his or her GCSE English came up with the idea. They even send out 'guidelines' to newspapers and magazines asking them to repeat the error, something which most of them happily ignore. But I really cannot stand or understand the desire to portray a public arts organisation as being illiterate - it's just an insult.

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Scott Norwood
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Why not just spell it "Dee Tee Ess"? [Smile]

My current marketing pet peeve is BiCapitalization, which looks ReallyStupid, especially when EveryCompany feels the need to BiCapitalize its CompanyName or ProductName or both. Either spell the name as two words or one, but don't try to pick a ReallyStupid compromise.

End of rant.

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Evans A Criswell
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DoubleCapitalization probably ComesFrom VariableNaming conventions in ProgrammingLanguages ever since CaseSensitivity became important in ProgrammingLanugages like C and Modula2 back in the 1980s. Back in the mid 1980s, I thought that LowerCase letters had no place on a computer since we were taught AllUpperCase in FORTRAN and on the IBM MainFrame, it didn't matter. The IBM 3270 terminals were set to UpperCase only and we were supposed to leave them that way.

as for the dts thing, i'm not ashamed to admit that i've always wondered about the preferred capitalization of it myself. it seems that ever since instant messaging software has come along and people are trying to type messages as fast as possible, writing in all lower case has become quite stylish. also, in the early nineties, hackers tended to create cool mixed case handles. i receive lots of email messages now that are written in all lower case. i guess removing punctuation will be the next big thing.

i've consistently written dts in upper case when writing about them on my www site, as i do thx and sdds. come to think of it, i don't remember seeing dts lower-cased in writing before, except in the logo.

i'd be curious to know dts's official word on this matter as well.

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Jesse Skeen
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My Sony receiver flashes the sound format on its display for a few seconds when discs send the flag out- it shows DTS in lower-case as "dts 3/2" but Dolby in all caps as "DOLBY DIGITAL 3/2".

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Joe Redifer
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Sony is retarded.

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Bobby Henderson
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Yeah! Sony is "sofa-king-we-todd-did". My Yamaha receiver capitalizes the "DTS" and lights up a way cool DTS logo.

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Joe Redifer
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Oh yeah? Well my Pioneer receiver capitalizes DTS, lights up a DTS logo, and also has a voice announce that I am listening to DTS for the entire time DTS is engaged!

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William Hooper
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Why did they make their acronym the same as the one for delirium tremens? Was it to intentionally mislead people?

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Mike Blakesley
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On the IME's Scoreboard sheets, movies are listed with letters indicating what digital formats they're released in. He uses D for Dolby, T for DTS, and S for SDDS. So if a film was availalbe in all 3 formats, the listing would say:

D/T/S

I think he finally realized he was sorta helping promote one format, so now it says:

T/D/S

Unfortunately, now he's promoting a trailer/onesheet service. [Roll Eyes]

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