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Author Topic: Pioneer A06 Dual Layer DVD Burning Demonstrated Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-13-2004 08:40 AM                        Apparently it was demonstrated at the CES. Only a firmware upgrade would be needed to burn dual layer discs. Not sure if a special DVD+R disc will be required (probably). I am amazed nobody has mentioned this yet! Personally I think this ability has been there the whole time, but held back on by manufacturers because of the studios. But now they need something to compete with Sony's Blue Ray announcement. http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/8861  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 01-13-2004 08:55 AM                        This wouldn't surprise me one little bit - as it is the industry has an effective means of preventing quick and easy DVD duping simply by making them dual layer. As it is the only single-layer commercially pressed discs I've seen are either given away promos or obscure archive titles for which there wouldn't be any market for pirate copies. Presumably Mr. Valenti won't be too keen for these firmware updates or blank media to see the light of day...  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-13-2004 10:24 AM                        Not surprising since the A06 has always been able to do more than it was capable of doing when it was shipped. For instance, it has always supported 2.4x +/-RW, you just needed an eeprom burned to make it happen. I believe they're on something like the 23rd factory firmware on the A06. Luckily there isn't a damn thing Uncle Jack can do about it Leo. Dual layer discs will back nightly system backups so much less painless. Now if I only had some dual layer discs...  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-13-2004 11:55 AM                     I wonder if that firmware upgrade will transfer over to Pioneer's DVR-S606 external DVD-/+RW burner. That drive is essentially an A06 drive in external packaging. I haven't bought one yet, but am leaning in favor of that model instead of getting the 8X one sold by Plextor.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-13-2004 01:59 PM                        I wouldn't doubt it. In all likelihood it's probably just an A06 in a box. Pioneer is almost as notorious as IBM for shipping the same piece of equipment as a dozen different products. How close do the non-interface related specs match up?  |  IP: Logged Martin Brooks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 900 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 01-15-2004 11:49 PM                        Anyone get the A06 working on a Mac under Panther? Mine reads CDs and DVDs okay and will write CD-Rs, but I can't get it to write CD-RW's or DVD-R or DVD-RW. It copies all the files for the image, but the second I click on "BURN", I get "unknown error" and the file window disappears, even though the blanks are properly recognized when I put them in the drive.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-16-2004 12:05 AM                        Are you using Toast to do the buning? You should. There is no better software burner than Toast. And unlike the Finder it doesn't take forever and a day just to "copy" (for whatever reason is beyond me) before it burns. I'd stay away from 10.3 "Panther" altogether. I have it at work and while I enjoy the exposé stuff, the networking is horrible and it just seems unfinished to me.  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-16-2004 01:57 AM                        I'm pretty sure I can burn DVDs & CDs in the lamphouse, but I really fail to see the point.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-16-2004 05:36 AM                        Agreed. Especially when it's so much more fun to burn them in a microwave oven.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-19-2004 02:50 PM                     Well, I caved in yesterday an bought an internal ATAPI model of the Pioneer DVR-A06U DVD+/-RW drive at Best Buy in Norman, OK. They were asking $139 for the drive (price after a $30 rebate). That price seemed quite a bit more attractive than the roughly $300 cost of the latest external models from Plextor and Pioneer. But I have a bit of a choice to make on how I should install this drive. My home PC has a DVD-ROM drive in the first bay and a Teac CD-RW drive in the second bay. Which drive is better to swap out, the CD-RW drive or DVD-ROM? My main concern is avoiding any possible system conflicts.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-19-2004 03:08 PM                     $139!!! Wow, suddenly I feel I got screwed for paying almost $400 for the A05. Does it really matter which drive you pull? I've had my Plextor cd burner (magnificent drive, by the way) installed alongside the A05 with no issues. I have also had the A05 installed alongside a TDK cd burner with no issues. Furthermore, I have had the A05 installed along a generic dvd-rom drive with no issues.  |  IP: Logged Martin Brooks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 900 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 01-19-2004 05:04 PM                        quote: I'd stay away from 10.3 "Panther" altogether. Too late. I wish I did stay away from it, even though I love Expose also. My Mac operated perfectly under 10.2.x (Jaguar). The upgrade to Panther was a disaster. This is the first time I've ever had a single problem upgrading a Mac OS. Every other single upgrade worked flawlessly. After a bunch of "install and archives", I've got the machine fairly stable again, except that now I-Chat AV doesn't work. After always failing to sign-on the first time, it works the second, but takes out Keychain and anything relating to accounts until I restart. Plus I've got those problems using the finder to copy to the A-06, except for CD-R, which works fine.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-19-2004 08:03 PM                     For those of you who have the A05 or A06 DVD burners, what do you think of the software that comes bundled with it? My drive came with Nero Express and Ulead DVD Movie Factory (which is just a bunch of SE versions of their stuff. I had a couple little hurdles when installing the drive. The jumper was set by default to "master" so I had to change it to the "cable select" setting so it wouldn't fight with my DVD-ROM drive. And then I had to uninstall Adaptec EZ-CD Creator 4 and their version of DirectCD before I could install any of the Nero/Ulead stuff. To get to the point, will I be wasting my time trying to make use of those bundled apps? What advantages do Nero6 or Roxio EZ CD/DVD Creator 6 have?  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-19-2004 08:49 PM                        Depending on what you want to do with it, the bundled version of Nero is just fine. I've used it for backing up files and burning a few DVD images created by the bundled ULead software. By the way, IMHO, Cable Select is the root of all evil.  |  IP: Logged Ron Lacheur Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 650 From: British Columbia, Canada Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-19-2004 09:57 PM                     I'm thinking about picking up the Pioneer 106, the OEM version of the A06. If I had the software already, would I be better off just getting the OEM version?  |  IP: Logged

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