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Greg Mueller
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Jason Black
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Bwwaaaa haaaaa haaaaaa..
Good one Greg.. [Smile]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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3 million miles and then to find that?????? Yuck!
Mark @ CLACO

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Greg Mueller
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 - posted 01-21-2004 11:02 PM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ok Joe, which rule in particular did I break to get my thread locked up?
Or is this just a special "Joe's rule"?
[Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile] [Smile]

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Brad Miller
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Greg, the moderators are doing their job properly. There is no reason in the world to open up two threads almost identical to each other. You should have posted the followup picture in this thread. If I had've seen the thread first, I would've closed it too. Joe is not out to shut your threads down, he is just trying to keep organization like the rest of us. Let it go please.

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Greg Mueller
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No problem

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Gilbert Travin
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great !!!! [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
But what about cinema ? [eyes] [eyes]

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Randy Stankey
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I was looking at pictures from the Mars rover this evening. I was wondering if I could figure out why the first rover's computer crashed. Hey, I'm no expert but I figured, "What the heck."

So, I downloaded a couple of pics and I found this close-up of the on-board computer. I think I may have an idea! Take a look at this pic and see what you think.

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Chris Hipp
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Yeah, inferior American electronics [Big Grin]

Does anyone know if the second rover is solar powered also? It would be cool to see a picture of the night sky from mars.

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Randy Stankey
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Don't know for sure but I assume they are identical twins.

Their official website is:
marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov

On there is a section where you can download all of the raw images taken from each of the various cameras on board each rover. Last I checked there were over 1,800 of them just on Spirit alone.

There's got to be something to interest you there! [Smile]

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Both rovers are identical, including their solar panels, right down to their flawed software... which is luckily on a FPGA so they can upgrade it if they absolutely have to.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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This site is at Cornell where the cameras were designed and built along with some of the other instrumentation.
http://athena.cornell.edu/the_mission/ins_pancam.html
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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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Although the cameras were conceived at Cornell, they were built at NASA's JPL. The CCDs were designed by DALSA (a digital cinema camera manufacturer) in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. Just across town from Christie Digital Systems. The chips were manufacturered by DALSAs fab in Quebec.

http://www.dalsa.com/news/news.asp?itemID=127

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DALSA-built CCD Chips Deliver Stunning Imagery Of Martian Landscape
Posted 1/6/2004


DALSA-built sensors captured the highest-resolution images ever taken of another planet
Waterloo, Ontario, January 6, 2004 – Three days after successfully landing on Mars, the Mars Exploration Rover “Spirit” has successfully begun transmitting high resolution colour images of the “red” planet. The CCD image sensor chips, designed by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) in Pasadena, California, were manufactured at DALSA’s semiconductor wafer production facility in Bromont, Quebec.

The space-qualified chips are critical components in the nine electronic cameras aboard each of the two Rovers. “Spirit” landed on Saturday, January 3rd, and “Opportunity,” its twin, is expected to land on the other side of the planet in three weeks. Three cameras on each Rover are responsible for scientific investigation, including panoramic and stereoscopic images. Six other cameras aid in navigating the vehicle on the surface of Mars. The cameras will serve as the vehicle’s “electronic eyes”, as it examines its landing site for geological evidence of past liquid water activity and past environmental conditions hospitable to life.


DALSA-built sensors on the "camera bar"
of each rover provide high-quality
images for analysis and navigation
Spirit’s high resolution “Pancam”, which employs the DALSA-manufactured chips, is the most sophisticated color imaging system ever sent to the surface of another planet and is responsible for the colour images Spirit has transmitted to earth. The stereo pair of CCD cameras is located on a “camera bar” that sits on top of the mast of the Rover and is responsible for taking high resolution views of the surface and sky through eight different coloured filters. Pancam’s mast assembly allows it to rotate a complete 360° while the camera bar itself can swing up or down through 180° of elevation. This allows the cameras to generate stunning panoramic image mosaics as large as 4,000 pixels high by 24,000 pixels around, equivalent to a 96 megapixel image.

“We’re extremely proud of the contribution our employees at Bromont have made to this landmark achievement in space exploration,” commented Savvas Chamberlain, CEO of DALSA Corporation. “We have a good working history with NASA/JPL and we’re thrilled that we can once again play a role in such an important project.”

The Mars Exploration Rover is the second high profile space related project DALSA has been involved in the past several years. Engineers in Waterloo supplied the space-qualified CCD camera electronics for the Canadarm2 robotic arm that was installed at the International Space Station in April 2001.

About DALSA Corporation
DALSA is an international high performance semiconductor and electronics company that designs, develops, manufactures, and markets digital imaging products and solutions, in addition to providing wafer foundry services. DALSA’s core competencies are in specialized integrated circuit and electronics technology, and highly engineered semiconductor wafer processing. Products include image sensor components; electronic digital cameras; and semiconductor wafer foundry services for use in MEMS, power semiconductors, image sensors and mixed-signal CMOS chips.

DALSA is a public company listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange under the symbol “DSA”. Based in Waterloo, ON. Canada, the company has operations in Bromont, PQ; Colorado Springs, CO; Tucson, AZ; Eindhoven, NL; Munich, Germany and Tokyo, Japan.

http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/pancam_techwed_040114.html

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20-20 vision

The Pancam was conceived at Cornell University and built at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Dalsa, based in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada, makes cinema-quality video components and other high-end imaging devices and was called on to make the CCDs for the Pancam and the other cameras on Spirit and its twin rover, Opportunity.

"They are the world's highest performing chips in terms of light sensitivity and chip quality," Myles said in a telephone interview earlier this week.

Overall, how does a Pancam stack up to the typical 5-megapixel camera you might purchase at Best Buy?

"There really isn't any comparison," Myles said.

NASA officials say the camera shows what a human with 20-20 vision would see on the surface of Mars. But anyone who has zoomed in on a distant rock in one of Spirit's color pictures would have to wonder if perhaps Superman's vision might be a better comparison.

Experts argue endlessly about what the human eye can actually see, however. Comparing human vision to what a camera captures "is really up to great speculation," Myles said.

NASA's analogy, Myles explained, is "probably a bit of marketing spin. It helps people visualize the quality." The height and breadth of a Pancam image is roughly equal to what a person would see, taking into account peripheral vision. And the Pancam has a human perspective. It sits atop a mast on the rover, 5 feet (1.4 meters) above the surface.

Myles said the actual image quality probably exceeds human capabilities, especially after the image is processed and a computer is used to provide a zoom function.


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