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Michael Schaffer
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I already tried right clicking and saving on the link, but it doesn`t work (even though the real player opens and plays the file). The address in the source text triggers a response "address type unknown or unsupported".

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Scott Norwood
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Sound card. Line output. Tape recorder.

Seriously.

One of the "selling points" of Real Audio is that the content can be "streamed" and not easily saved. Somehow, this is considered to be a good thing.

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Phil Hill
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I agree with Scott! That's the way to save it.

I F*CKING HATE Real Audio! It's spyware and lame and just another scheme to get your $$$!

That is ONE vendor I would gladly bootleg!

>>> Phil

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Paul G. Thompson
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Yup! I hunk of junk. Likes to hog the computer, too.

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Michael Schaffer
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OK then I will record it. My harmon/kardon AV receiver has digital in and out, so there is only one conversion stage, from real to PCM and back to WAV, though since PCM and WAV have the sam data content in different file types, there shouldn`t be any further conversion at this point.
My only problem here is that I don`t have a harddisk recorder program, the "record" function in Windows sucks and records only 60 seconds at a time anyway.

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Steve Kraus
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All these things simply deliver digitized ("wav") audio to the soundcard. Doesn't anyone offer software that can intercept and record this data? Best of all would be a virtual audio card that Winblows would see as your sound card and let you do what you want with the data and then turn it over to the actual drivers for the actual sound card. It doesn't seem like it would be that difficult.

Edit: Okay, I just brought up streaming Real Audio from WBEZ Chicago Public Radio and at the same time opened Windows Sound Recorder. I could record the sound. I also tried a demo (save disabled) version of Cool Edit 2000. I could record the sound there as well. I don't know if it's getting the digitized audio or if there is some analog cross connection in the sound card but I'd say probably the former. What am I missing as this seemed pretty obvious and easy?

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Paul G. Thompson
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Yes, Steve. If I understand what you are asking about, there are several programs that can be used for that. However, they can be expensive.

As you discovered, the basic Microsoft sound recorder can do that.

If I record some live streaming, I use SAW-32 or the SAWCLASS Program. It works extremely well with the Soundblaster Live! soundcard. Cool Edit is a very good program.

I have Fast Edit - it is a good program, but the version I have will not run under XP.

I record internet stuff right straight to the hard drive in a WAV format. I presume it is analog processing in the sound card, but I cannot be sure of that.

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Dennis Benjamin
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I bought a software program called "Replay Radio" back about six months ago. It is quite an awesome program, it can record any sound that goes through your computer. It's great because you can set it up to automatically wake up and record radio programs off the 'Net. Now that I have a cable modem, I have been filling up my hard drive space with audio files. That is the other thing - it can record to whatever file format you want. [Smile]

www.replay-radio.com

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Wayne Keyser
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As I listen to the Real Audio program, I run "Total Recorder" in "What U Hear" mode, then save the file. I can tweak it (clip dead heads and tails, at least) with Sound Forge and if needed convert it to mp3 with any number of freeware apps.

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Brian Michael Weidemann
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Tape recorder!?! Once you got a recording on cassette, then what? I don't think they even SELL blank tapes anymore, do they? [Wink]

quote: Wayne Keyser
... in "What U Hear" mode, then save the file. I can tweak it (clip dead heads and tails, at least) with Sound Forge and ...
Sound Forge is great! This is exactly what I do when I want to mix down my multi-track recordings with Environmental Audio reverb/effects (I love Sound Blaster!) However, doing this will also record everything the computer does ... AIM message sounds, Windows clicks, etc. So for general recording of streaming sources, I just select the "Wave" channel as recording source. Even though the source is not a ".wav" file necessarily, it all gets processed through the same part of the sound card, and it's the right stage of the sound card's output that you want to capture.

And yes, the .ra format bites! As for players ... WINAMP 2.80 FOREVER!!!

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Dominic Espinosa
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You could use cooledit, winamp, whatever you want. Recording from the WAV output in your soundcards record properties does exactly that.
Also, some sites don't actually stream the real data, they just have you click on a link which sends a .ram file containing the url of the actual file. Opening a .ram file in notepad would give you the url.
I don't think is very common anymore, but hey. Worth a shot.

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Joe Redifer
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On the Mac there is an awesome and extraordinarily simple freeware program called WireTap that records any sound generated by the computer to a standard 44.1Khz AIFF file on your desktop. You can record ANYTHING! There simply must be something available like that for Windows, right? Right? Probably not.

Anyway, you could just buy a 1/8" mini to mini stereo cable and loop the sound out to the sound in. I wouldn't worry about conversion or generation loss, since RealAudio is gonna sound like absolute shit on a stick in the first place anyway. it ain't gettin' any better, and if it gets worse, nobody on the planet could possibly tell.

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Mike Olpin
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There's also a simular program for the mac called Audio Hijack It can record audio isolated from any program. Whats really cool about it is that while it records the audio from one program, it ignors other sounds from other programs. It also has a timer function, so you can "TiVo" your favorite internet stream.

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Mitchell Dvoskin
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You sometimes can trick a windows computer into allowing you to save it. Just dis-associate the .ra or .ram file extensions from any application before clicking on it. Windows IE will then not know what to do with the file and prompt you to save it, as it would any other unknown file type.

This may or may not work depending upon how the web page is set up. Some web pages are set up so that you click on an application that opens the file, so that above will not work.

/Mitchell

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Leo Enticknap
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Nero (both 5.5 and 6) comes with a recording program thrown in ('Nero wave editor'). The capture, editing and noise reduction features on it are actually quite sophisticated - its only real limitation is that you're limited to mixing two channels.

Simply wind up the wave slider in your sound card's record settings, start your Real audio playing, hit record on Nero and off you go.

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