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Topic: Fired Again: 'Apprentice' Contestant Loses Real Job
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Michael Gonzalez
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posted 10-03-2004 09:35 AM
From Zap2it
http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|90967|1|,00.html
LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) Jennifer Crisafulli, the New York real estate agent fired from "The Apprentice" in this week's episode, is being shown the door in her real-life job as well. Prudential Douglas Elliman, the Manhattan firm where Crisafulli works, says it won't be welcoming her back after her remarks on Wednesday's (Sept. 29) "Apprentice" that some viewers may have perceived as anti-Semitic. Crisafulli referred to two women who had negatively reviewed a restaurant her team was running as "old, Jewish fat ladies."
"We do not intend to have an individual in our organization who subscribes to this point of view," Steven James, a senior vice president at Prudential Douglas Elliman, tells the Albany (N.Y.) Times Union (Crisafulli is an Albany-area native). "They are not wanted. They are not needed."
The firm, citing legal constraints, is not saying whether Crisafulli was "fired," but she tells the paper that she's out of a job. "I'm so upset," she says. "I mean, my career is gone."
Crisafulli says she "feel[s] terrible about this" and worries about people getting a bad impression of her. She says she stated on camera that she has Jewish relatives, but that comment was edited out; she said so again during an appearance on NBC's "Today" show Thursday.
An e-mail sent to all Douglas Elliman employees Thursday says the company "does not share the views of Jennifer Crisafulli nor condone her behavior on 'The Apprentice,'" according to the Times Union. "We understand that many of you are upset by her comments, as are we, so please know that we are dealing with the situation in a timely fashion and in a way that we believe will meet with your satisfaction."
Crisafulli, meanwhile, is trying to figure out what to do next.
"When does one encounter being on a reality show with Donald Trump, being viewed by 40 million people" -- 14 million, actually, for Wednesday's episode -- " ... [being the subject of] accusations and then get fired for what's on a reality TV show?" she tells the paper. "There is no template. What do I do? Lawyers across America, I need help -- pro bono."
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Thomas Procyk
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posted 10-03-2004 10:13 AM
Oh God. I actually watched an episode of this for the first time yesterday, and it was the one where this broad (yes, appropriate term) got fired.
She got fired on the show for all the right reasons: she didn't "manage" a darn thing, just barked orders that others disagreed with, but complied with, and when things went wrong she blamed it on those who did the deed, instead of taking responsibility for telling them that's what needed to be done.
As for her comments about the jewish ladies, it was true. It's not antisemitic, she was just telling the truth: They were old, they were fat, they were Jewish, they complained the most about the restaurant and gave them a low rating!! How is simply calling someone Jewish antisemitic? How can she tell they were Jewish? Well, how can you tell someone is Canadian? Sometimes your character shines through more than you think.
Getting fired from her real job for something she did while not working for them seems fishy. I would take it to court, and find someone to track down those old ladies, perhaps follow them to a synagogue to proove the fact and show that she didn't make any false remarks.
People really need to make up their minds: Do they want to be singled out and regognized for their "diversity", or do they want people to ignore their cultural and religious differences and treat them equally?
If anyone got a good look at the old ladies on the show, you'd understand. The more grotesque one was in a tank-top like shirt (this was a fancy restaurant) and the skinfolds on her chest looked like a waterfall curtain. I would have kicked them out of my restaurant. But then they would claim they were discriminated against because they were Jewish. But how were we supposed to know, right?? *sigh*
Customers suck.
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Mitchell Dvoskin
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posted 10-04-2004 09:26 AM
Thomas Said:
They were old, they were fat, they were Jewish, they complained the most about the restaurant and gave them a low rating!! How is simply calling someone Jewish antisemitic?
In the context it was used, it most certainly was anti-semetic. The fact that they were old was not relevent, the fact that they were fat was not relevent, the fact that they were Jewish was not relevent. The only thing relevent issue was they did not like the restaurant. The comment was clearly intended to degrade them. Including their assumed religion in this context could only be do to prejedice, attempting to call up negative stereotypes that may or may not apply to these women.
Why don't you try, Thomas, plugging your religion or ethnic group into the quote as it was used and tell you would not be offended.
As to her getting fired in real life, she deserved it. I would never knowingly do business with a company that employed people who thought so poorly of my religion. Period. Ever.
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Jeremy Fuentes
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posted 10-04-2004 10:39 AM
quote: Mitchell Dvoskin Why don't you try, Thomas, plugging your religion or ethnic group into the quote as it was used and tell you would not be offended.
I'll do it. I'm just a young, catholic, skinny hispanic. Oh wow, i'm offended.
Maybe it'll work if someone else says it about me. Anyone wanna say it, or wanna say anything else about me? Go ahead... I'm sure I'll be offended, and call your job and tell them what you said and get you fired. Wait, then that would make me an idiot, and I wouldnt want anyone to think that about me.
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Mitchell Dvoskin
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posted 10-04-2004 10:49 AM
Jeremy, that is exactly my point. On there own, the words are just words, but in the context of how they were used, they were offensive. If the manager of a restaurant used your words to describe you after a complaint, what he would be doing is implying that you did not know what you were talking about because you are young, and that your opinion did not count because you are Catholic and Hispanic. At best, that is rude, and at worst it is prejediced. It calls into question your opinions not based on whether or not they were valid, but because of your age, religion and ethinic group.
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Thomas Procyk
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posted 10-04-2004 11:53 AM
The restaurant was in New York, I'm sure a great percentage of those customers were Jewish, and with the exception of the two female citizens more than eligible for social security, most seemed to enjoy themselves. And I'm sorry if my assumption of the demographics of New York offends you in any way. The same is to be said of the demographics of Boca Raton.
And yes, the issue at hand was that they disliked the restaurant. But the fact was that she did not make these comments in public, (being on TV aside) she was describing the customers to her workers at home.
Mitchell -- Could you describe two customers who were at a restaurant among hundreds of customers over the course of the day without using any words concerning age, weight, skin color, ethnicity, religion, or brand names of clothing (because that could put you in a social class, too)? Of course not. "It was all the fault of those two ladies in the white shirts!" Good luck.
I'm part Polish, part Ukranian, and not exactly rich. I've gotten my fair share of ethnic and socioeconomic insults, but by ignoring them or not taking them personally, it makes me a stronger person. I've had my Jewish friends tell me I am praying to a fake God, or that Easter shouldn't be a holiday. I just shrug and tell them to go see The Passion...
Let's keep the religion toned down though, before The Powers That Be (pun intended) lock this thread.
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